[kictanet] Registrar of Companies computerisation

Mon Sep 12 09:56:39 EAT 2011

Daktari,

It is Monday morning and I still have not been able to get the CR-12, so please notify the Solicitor General that the system is literally broken down.  

I belief my requirement is much simpler to achieve than Andrew's case, mine if the confirmation of directors.

The CD-12 is required by Safaricom so that they can renew our mpesa agency in addition I will need to get another certificate of good conduct that was issued not more than 3 months ago, as the one I have is 4 months old.  The courts are said to be using tele-presence but the police still cannot tell if I have been convicted of a crime in the past 3 months, there is a disconnect somewhere here all as a result of the government and its silos; to you Kate.

All these activities are because of a new directive to Safaricom and other mobile money providers by the government of Kenya.  Has the person who issued the directive followed the process (dry run) to see what it will take to implement?  Safaricom has over 25,000 mpesa agents all of who need to meet this new directive and lets remember that not all of them operate from Nairobi.

For all intents and purposes I am an investor and if you cannot give me a one stop shop to do business how do we expect to deliver a better service to that elusive foreign investor?  Charity begins at home and like call centres and outsourcing until we can deliver to ourselves all the initiatives including Malala shall come to nowt.

I wish, as was suggested, that the Governor of Central Bank, the Attorney General, PS Information Ministry, CEO KICTB and any other executives could go under cover and try to get a certificate of good conduct, register a company, carry out a title search and get admitted to Kenyatta.  

Instead of paying for breakfast let them use the funds to purchase convincing disguises and get out there and test the systems.

Regards

Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Registrar of Companies computerisation

He welcomes the opportunity and that he can present the New Companies Bill that is in its second reading in Parliament.  We shall host a two hour meeting may be a breakfast in the first week of October.  There are many ICT opportunities that we need to take advantage of now when the registry has been digitized.

We need to further discuss in ways that we can use the two hours productively.  We may need prior discussions on the list first.

Regards

Ndemo.

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From:  "[ Brainiac ]" <arebacollins at gmail.com> 
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:31:13 +0300
To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Registrar of Companies computerisation
Good thing you are still with him, here is a suggestion. Why dont you ask him to engage with this community on the (Specifically ICT based) roadmap for making the registration process simpler. Maybe a structured discussion might be able to shed some light on how this can be simplified further or enable those of us not versed with the technicalities of the letter and spirit of the law that might make it impossible to do a name search, register and get a certificate in 5 minutes. 

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 11:27 AM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:

 I am still with the Solicitor General and the AG and they are saying the World Bank is reporting historical data.  SG invites your Lawyers to see him if there is such delay.
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>@bwana PS ill have to fault you on that, and unless we are all wrong and your solicitor general is right, here is reference to some of the issues: all can be found in a world bank report that highlights the pitfalls. 
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>It takes an average of 33 days to finalise the 11 procedures for licensing a business  in Kenya.  It is three days in Rwanda. [ http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kenya+cedes+more+ground+in+Doing+Business+ranking/-/539552/1220766/-/s2ijvsz/-/index.html ]
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>Andrew,
>>This is false.  I just happened to have sat next to the Solicitor General at NESC meeting then I showed him your post.  He says it takes three days flat to register a company.  If you have a problem please see the Head of Department Jane Joram.  If it does not work, let us know where the bottlenecks are then we change that quickly.
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>>If it is your Lawyers then we may not help.
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