[kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint

Mon Oct 10 16:29:27 EAT 2011

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On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Macharia Gaitho <mgaitho at ke.nationmedia.com
> wrote:

>  ‘braking’, not ‘breaking’ distance.****
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> *From:* kictanet-bounces+mgaitho=nation.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto:
> kictanet-bounces+mgaitho=nation.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of
> *Phares Kariuki
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2011 4:09 PM
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> *To:* Macharia Gaitho
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint****
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> We are not taught the fundamentals. I have been trying to avoid pointing
> out a basic grammatical error many are making on this list, but I'll do so
> anyway. In English and most other Latin based languages proper nouns are
> capitalized. Many on this list have their names in outgoing emails without
> capitalizing.  Why am I pointing this out? We all went through one education
> system. For you to gained admission into a public university, you needed to
> have achieved at least a mean grade of B. If we are making the same mistakes
> the journalists are making, how can we take the high road? If we
> purposefully chose to ignore the rules of grammar as we were done with our
> 'high school' education, then it means that there is a fundamental problem
> with our education system (we never had to apply our knowledge of English,
> so we are really studying for the sake of the grade and not the knowledge).
> ****
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> It's the same with Swahili, Physics (e.g. we all know that Kenyan drivers
> are constantly speeding, even with vehicles that were not built for speed.
> In high school, we are taught that *breaking distance* is proportional to
> the *square* of the speed, which means that it increases out
> of proportion to the increase in speed), but we disregard this. We all sang
> the national anthem at least twice per week, for all twelve years of our
> primary and tertiary education, yet we stutter if we are asked to recite
> it. ****
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> The crisis of our education system is that people don't value the skill as
> much as they value recognition for the skill. It does not matter whether or
> not you can actually code, what matters is that you have a certificate that
> says  you can. It's apparent in the technology space today. People have to
> earn their stripes, papers no longer really matter. The 'Mwakenya' is the
> standard in University exam rooms. And the situation is only getting worse.
> We need to find ways of integrating what people learn with day to day life.
> If we don't, we will keep having this tragedy of people getting knowledge
> for the sake of the certificate and not bothering to find out why they are
> learning that. ****
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> A further illustration, I once spoke to a university student who mentioned
> that he was doing Oracle Certification 'because he heard that it has money'.
> My problem with his thinking was that he had no clue what products Oracle
> was dealing in, he was going to do any certification available, which means,
> he might have ended up certifying in a field he did not like (Oracle has
> Enterprise Hardware/Software/Cloud Services) and land on a job he does not
> want, but one that pays well. ****
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> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:43 PM, luke mulunda <lmulunda at yahoo.com> wrote:*
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> Marsh,****
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> My brain must have been infested with cobwebs. ****
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> Anyhow, that's what we are talking about: where are the guys (like you) to
> follow through and clean up the mess before it gets to the press? And it's
> not just the daily newspapers, Weeklies, and even monthy publications. I
> have been reading a book authored and published locally and you can see the
> concern. ****
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> *From:* Macharia Gaitho <mgaitho at ke.nationmedia.com>
> *To:* luke mulunda <lmulunda at yahoo.com>****
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> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>****
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> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2011 1:19 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint****
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> Luke,****
>
> the Ugandan leader was ‘Amin’, not ‘Amini’.****
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> I would suppose the unnamed ‘he’  was killed at dawn, not ‘down’. ****
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> Kindest regards****
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> *From:* kictanet-bounces+mgaitho=nation.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto:
> kictanet-bounces+mgaitho=nation.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of
> *luke mulunda
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2011 10 <2011%2010>:37 AM
> *To:* Macharia Gaitho****
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> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions****
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> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint****
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> Hi all,****
>
> I would personally blame it on cost-cutting. We have journalism and English
> experts in newsrooms, but they have too much on their hands to spot the most
> obvious and embarrassing mistakes in our publications. ****
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>  ****
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> Mistakes can be costly. Remember during Amini's time in Uganda, the
> dictator had criticised a female MP, and so the paper splashed the following
> morning "Amini rapes MP" when he meant "RAPS". I hear, he was killed at down
> as he brushed his teeth in his house.****
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> LUKE M****
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> *From:* Catherine Adeya <elizaslider at yahoo.com>
> *To:* luke <lmulunda at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2011 10 <2011%2010>:18 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint****
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> James,****
>
> The PS has a point and I am not disputing yours either but I would simply
> respond to your email below that generalizations is what has got us where we
> are. Specificity can help more.....****
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>  ****
>
> Nyaki****
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> *From:* james ratemo <jratemo at gmail.com>
> *To:* elizaslider at yahoo.com
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 4, 2011 11 <2011%2011>:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Declining English grammar in our Newsprint****
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> Bwana PS what are you insinuating? We open our newsrooms fro the so called
> English majors? Some of them are in the newsrooms already...maybe they are
> sleeping on the job...my opinion****
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> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:11 PM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:****
>
> All of today's newspapers had several grammatical errors.  At this time and
> age of ICT, is it not too embarrasing to have such errors?  We have
>  thousands of English majors without jobs.  It is time for media to be
> thorough in what they do by utilizing our many graduates without jobs.  As a
> Kenyan I get embarrased to see such errors.
>
> Ndemo.
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