[kictanet] Speed Cameras

Wed Nov 23 13:44:50 EAT 2011

@eric without going into semantics (of which i would be right), i withdraw
the statement.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Eric Aligula <jairah at kippra.or.ke> wrote:

> I am alarmed that the statement that Kenya has come to be known as an ICT
> powerhouse largely through the hard working efforts of the private sector.
> This cannot be correct?  The private sector has played a major role yes.
> But how far would they have gone if the government sat on its hands? We
> should point out where the problems are.  Blanket condemnation is not the
> way to go.****
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> *From:* kictanet-bounces+jairah=kippra.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:
> kictanet-bounces+jairah=kippra.or.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *[
> Brainiac ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:22 AM
> *To:* Eric Aligula
>
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Speed Cameras****
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> I think @robert it is this monster, vested interests or whatever is
> causing such issues to come up that is causing us to lag behind in ICT
> especially governance. Kenya has come to be known as an ICT powerhouse
> largely through the hard working efforts of the private sector, I feel the
> government as a unit needs to do something to make the environment more
> friendly for private sector participation... yes? no?****
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:40 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:****
>
> Hi,****
>
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>
> So long us we cannot even activate all the street lights on Uhuru Highway
> we will never get rid of the policeman.****
>
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> You can tell from some of the posts by Dr. Ndemo that even he has raised
> his hands in surrender, the best way to move some of this agendas forward
> is to get those directly affected such as insurance company to spearhead.*
> ***
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> I am collocating a PRPS who is providing data to the police and TLB
> inspectors on TLB licenses, he is currently being fought by KRA, Treasury,
> KICTB and GITS.  With such resistance what chance do we really have to get
> technology to provide solutions on the public sector?****
>
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> Regards****
>
>  ****
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya****
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696****
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>
> *From:* [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins at gmail.com>
> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 November 2011, 10:25****
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Speed Cameras****
>
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> @robert it is this third component that i am proposing we eliminate by my
> proposal. I bet it will bring sanity because it pinches where it hurts, in
> the pocket. Imagine a matatu making 100k in a month and paying a fine of
> 200k.... ****
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:01 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:****
>
> Dennis,****
>
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> You forget the 3rd component on our roads, policemen.****
>
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> Regards****
>
>  ****
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya****
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696****
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com>****
>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk ****
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> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> ****
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> *Sent:* Sunday, 20 November 2011, 20:34****
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Speed Cameras****
>
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> A peculiar observation about Mombasa Road, when we have dignitaries flying
> in the morning, there is no traffic.Does this mean that traffic is ignored
> on other days as not being critical?
>
> A recent article on Business Week says roundabouts are developed to
> eliminate traffic light delays making traffic flow faster. How comes this
> is not the case in Kenya, and why do we have both lights and roundabouts?*
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great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of
corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of
protecting corporate power against democracy”*

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