@eric without going into semantics (of which i would be right), i withdraw the statement.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Eric Aligula <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jairah@kippra.or.ke">jairah@kippra.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I am alarmed that the statement that Kenya has come to be known as an ICT powerhouse largely through the hard working efforts of the private sector. This cannot be correct? The private sector has played a major role yes. But how far would they have gone if the government sat on its hands? We should point out where the problems are. Blanket condemnation is not the way to go.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">To succeed, all the sectors, akin to all parts of an engine, must fire well.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Eric Aligula Magolo, PhD<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Programmes Coordinator & Ag. Head, Infrastructure and Economic Services Division<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kenya Institute for Public Policy Research and Analysis (KIPPRA)<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Proudly Kenyan, Kenyan by Nature!</span></i></b><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d;background:white"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">“In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility……….I welcome it.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">John F. Kennedy <u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">“To allow other people’s assessment of you to determine your own self-assessment is a very big mistake” <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Columbia University President Lee Bollinger<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">"Far better to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory, nor defeat."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Theodore Roosevelt</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><i><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">"Ex Africa semper aliquid novi"<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><i><span lang="PT-BR" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">“Per aspera ad astra!”</span></i></b><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> kictanet-bounces+jairah=<a href="mailto:kippra.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kippra.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Bjairah" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+jairah</a>=<a href="mailto:kippra.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kippra.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>[ Brainiac ]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 23, 2011 9:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> Eric Aligula</span></p><div class="im"><br><b>Cc:</b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<br></div><div><div class="h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Speed Cameras<u></u><u></u></div>
</div><p></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I think @robert it is this monster, vested interests or whatever is causing such issues to come up that is causing us to lag behind in ICT especially governance. Kenya has come to be known as an ICT powerhouse largely through the hard working efforts of the private sector, I feel the government as a unit needs to do something to make the environment more friendly for private sector participation... yes? no?<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:40 PM, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="color:black">Hi,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">So long us we cannot even activate all the street lights on Uhuru Highway we will never get rid of the policeman.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">You can tell from some of the posts by Dr. Ndemo that even he has raised his hands in surrender, the best way to move some of this agendas forward is to get those directly affected such as insurance company to spearhead.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">I am collocating a PRPS who is providing data to the police and TLB inspectors on TLB licenses, he is currently being fought by KRA, Treasury, KICTB and GITS. With such resistance what chance do we really have to get technology to provide solutions on the public sector?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">Robert Yawe<br>
KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center">
</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> [ Brainiac ] <<a href="mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com" target="_blank">arebacollins@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 22 November 2011, 10:25<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Speed Cameras<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">@robert it is this third component that i am proposing we eliminate by my proposal. I bet it will bring sanity because it pinches where it hurts, in the pocket. Imagine a matatu making 100k in a month and paying a fine of 200k.... <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:01 AM, robert yawe <<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Dennis,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">You forget the 3rd component on our roads, policemen.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Dennis Kioko <<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> <a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Cc:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Sunday, 20 November 2011, 20:34<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Speed Cameras<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="color:black">A peculiar observation about Mombasa Road, when we have dignitaries flying in the morning, there is no traffic.Does this mean that traffic is ignored on other days as not being critical? <br>
<br>A recent article on Business Week says roundabouts are developed to eliminate traffic light delays making traffic flow faster. How comes this is not the case in Kenya, and why do we have both lights and roundabouts?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<tbody><tr><td style="background:#edf1f7;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:3.75pt"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#003399">“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great <b>political </b>importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate <b>power</b>, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate <b>power</b> against democracy”</span></i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:3.75pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tel No: 0x2af23696<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div align="center"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%">
<tbody><tr><td style="background:#edf1f7;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:3.75pt"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#003399">“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great <b>political </b>importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate <b>power</b>, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate <b>power</b> against democracy”</span></i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td></tr><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">~ Alex Carey ~<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tel No: 0x2af23696<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td></tr></tbody></table></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div style="text-align:center"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px"><table style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin-top:5px" width="100%" cellspacing="0">
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</tr><tr><td colspan="2"><p style="padding-top:3px">~ Alex Carey ~</p><p style="padding-top:3px">Tel No: 0x2af23696</p></td></tr></tbody></table></span></div><br>