[kictanet] 24! Your dead in the water

robert yawe robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Jun 15 11:16:07 EAT 2011 

Hi,

It seems my comment about those older than 24 to give up on making a mark in 
society, apart from political, touched a raw nerve.

Please do not get disillusioned the following avenues still exist for you;

1.  Become an angel investor to the under 24 year old's (Google received US 
$100,000/-, do the ROI)
2.  Mentor and/or incubate the under 24 year old's (Sam please share)
3.  Encourage and motivate your children, nephews and nieces who are under 16 
years to take up development (Mark Zuckerberg was writing serious code he had 
taught himself when he was only 9 years old & turned down a job offers from AOL 
& Microsoft when he was in high school,  - what is your 9 year old doing?)

Even as old as we are we still can be part of the next big non-political 
revolution so long as we accept the fact that we shall be ball "boys", coaches, 
managers, financiers and onlookers but not player on the pitch which is why I 
continue to campaign for the post of Post Master General, king of snail mail.

FYI:
Mark Zuckerberg is another one in the long line including Bill Gates, Microsoft 
owner, and Steve Jobs, Apple CEO and largest shareholder of Disney. These guys 
keep reinforcing the myth that college graduates become employees in companies 
owned by college dropouts, who become billionaires. 


Rather than becoming dependable citizens looking for jobs, people like Mark 
Zuckerberg believe in becoming deviants, who go on to create jobs, and possess 
the cheek to do so without inheriting big bank accounts. One Mark Zuckerberg is 
sufficient to set millions of kids dreaming and doing awful damage to the tenets 
of civilized society, as we know it. Good boys should go through college, study 
as much as they can, and lose as much of their originality as they can, to 
become solid dependable workers for our industrial system. People like Mark 
Zuckerberg , just by their existence, incite others to think, something that has 
always been disapproved by good society, starting with the burning of 
Copernicus.

http://www.clevelcrossing.com/article/900107/Mark-Zuckerberg-Facebook-Owner-Exposed-in-the-New-Movie-Social-Network/


Regards

PS.  Do despair, in so long as developing that killer up is concerned but be 
re-energised by the other prevailing opportunities.
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya


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From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 12:11:13
Subject: Re: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 49, Issue 48

Ory, we all know women can multi-task *much* better than guys :) 


On 14 June 2011 11:24, Ory Okolloh <ookolloh at gmail.com> wrote:

Re radical ideas and kids. 
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>Mzalendo grew and went live when I was pregnant with my first child, Ushahidi 
>was born when I had a 10 month old and I quit my job to build the organization 
>behind it when I had another on the way, expecting number 3 after recently 
>joining Google and I'm sure I will continue to have new ideas there :-)
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>Ory
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:06:34 +0000
>>From: "david.simbiri at lixnet.net" <david.simbiri at lixnet.net>
>>To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
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>>I confirm my attendance.
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>>------Original message------
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>>To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:29:18 AM GMT+00:00
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] mhealth breakfast
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>>Listers,
>>My mistake on the date of this event.  Veneue is the same tomorrow the 15th of 
>>June and not the 16th.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>
>>Ndemo.
>>
>>
>>Sent from my BlackBerry?
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>>Message: 2
>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:18:41 +0300
>>From: Gakiria <gakiria at gmail.com>
>>To: "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services
>>Message-ID: <BANLkTimdeU58mP20k74a7tAejgD9u0K0Gw at mail.gmail.com>
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>>confirmed, will attend
>>Andrew
>>
>>On Tuesday, 14 June 2011, Suraj Shah <suraj at surajshah.co.ke> wrote:
>>> I would like to attend. ?Thanks
>>>
>>> Suraj Shah
>>> Corporate Affairs Manager
>>> Intel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/14/11 5:00 AM, "bitange at jambo.co.ke" <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Listers,
>>>> The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on 
the
>>>> 16th morning starting at the 7am. ?The sponsor has graciously accepted to 
>>have
>>>> at list 10 of you.
>>>>
>>>> Please let us have confirmations on the list. ?They will respond to you
>>>> directly. ?I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
>>>>
>>>> Ndemo.
>>>>
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>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry?
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>>Message: 3
>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:23:58 +0300
>>From: "Rad!" <conradakunga at gmail.com>
>>To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India
>>       on IT
>>Message-ID: <BANLkTims+FqrUcG+Pmu+GmFdbiFYh9cNSQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>>I must challenge you there Robert. What do rent and kids have to do with
>>creativity, drive and passion? Jonathan Ive, the principal designer of the
>>iMac, titanium and aluminum PowerBook G4, MacBook, unibody MacBook
>>Pro, iPod, iPhone, and iPad has a wife and two kids. Twins. Doesn't seem to
>>have slowed him down any.
>>
>>On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:26 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> The first step is to have a passion for what you want to do, then identify
>>a problem that needs solving and solve it all for the fun and passion of it
>>not the money.
>>> Mariga, Ronaldo and the rest of the ilk first played soccer for the fun
>>and passion of the game the scouts, enforcements and money then followed.
>>> Regards
>>> PS.  I was recently reminded that once you have rent to pay your ability
>>to do anything new diminishes exponentially and once the kids come along
>>forget about coming up with any radical, industry changing application or
>>business concept.  If the idea was not incubated when you where in high
>>school or campus then join the large band of IT vendors as the other train
>>has left.
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com>
>>> To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 9:01:18
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on
>>IT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:29 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This will give you an insight into how we can go from being a talk shop
>>and baby cries and get down to doing some serious productive work.
>>>> Without fear I will repeat what I commented previously "money follows
>>great ideas; period". I also like a comment from a Google employee, in one
>>of the documentaries, "Google is an extension of college"
>>>
>>> What's the first step?
>>>
>>> --
>>> With Regards,
>>>
>>> Phares Kariuki
>>>
>>> | T: +254 720 406 093 | E: pkariuki at gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype:
>>kariukiphares | B: http://www.kaboro.com/ |
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>>Message: 4
>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:49:28 +0300
>>From: james ratemo <jratemo at gmail.com>
>>To: bitange at jambo.co.ke
>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mhealth and medical cloud services
>>Message-ID: <BANLkTi=vTGD9vkg65V2jW0UqkTvVkkSfmw at mail.gmail.com>
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>>I would like to attend...please let the one involved in organizing confirm
>>
>>On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:00 AM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Listers,
>>> The breakfast meeting on medical cloud services will be at the Serena on
>>> the 16th morning starting at the 7am.  The sponsor has graciously accepted
>>> to have at list 10 of you.
>>>
>>> Please let us have confirmations on the list.  They will respond to you
>>> directly.  I will not involve myself with the details of this invite.
>>>
>>> Ndemo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Harry Delano" <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>
>>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:20:46
>>> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>>> Reply-To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya's "Silicon Savannah" to challenge India on IT
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>>
>>
>>--
>>James Ratemo
>>Online Sub-editor/ICT reporter
>>Nation Media Group,
>>P.O Box 409010-00100,
>>Nairobi
>>Cell Phone: 0724960649 OR 0731960649
>>Email: jratemo at ke.nationmedia.com <Emaili-jratemo at standardmedia.co.ke> or
>>ratemoj at hotmail.com <jamrats2001 at yahoo.com>
>>Website:www.jamesratemo.wordpress.com <http://www.ictcradle.com/>.
>>Twitter accounts: http://twitter.com/kenyacurrent or
>>http://twitter.com/jamesratemo
>>Skype account:ratemoj
>>My facebook account: http://www.facebook.com/Rats.the.menace
>>
>>Who is rich? He that is content. Who is that? No one.
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