[kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?

Barrack Otieno otieno.barrack at gmail.com
Tue Jul 12 09:58:50 EAT 2011


Dennis, I beg to differ, I take this comments to be constructive
criticism, the government is supposed to be a key driver of innovation
and growth its major role being a facilitator, listers are ranting
because in as much as the initiative at hand is great, it also has far
reaching implications on innovation and growth of the local ICT
sector, those who have argued against have tried to put across valid
reasons.

On 7/12/11, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Are we blaming the government for Kenya not having a ready enough
> data centre to host the data. Let he who has a data centre capable enough to
> host the open data come forth and say "naomba serikali inisaidie" If none,
> go ye and work hard enough for the next data sets.
>
> On 12 July 2011 08:03, Hussein, Ali <info at alyhussein.com> wrote:
>
>> Francis
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up on the Infocom information. It just goes to show
>> what an enlightened and forward thinking government in partnership with
>> the
>> private sector can achieve.
>>
>> @ Barrack, I do agree that local hosting is eventually the best bet to go
>> and I do hope that all of us will play a part in it instead of relying on
>> some amorphous being to take us there....Hence my challenge to all of
>> us...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> --
>> Ali Hussein
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Francis Hook
>> <francis.hook at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ali
>>> I think Infocom are already leading the way with a proposed shared Tier
>>> IV
>>> datacentre.   Then it will be up to vendors to gravitate around this to
>>> offer their XaaS among other things
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 July 2011 19:28, Ali Hussein <info at alyhussein.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Lucy
>>>>
>>>> All I can say is - We live in a Global Village.
>>>>
>>>> I honestly believe that this is a wake-up call for Local Service
>>>> Providers. However in defence of them the investment required to set up
>>>> and
>>>> run a Rackspace calibre service is huge...but so are the returns... So
>>>> my
>>>> question to us in the private sector is who will step up? Or should we
>>>> wait
>>>> for the Min of Info-comm to lead the way like they did with the undersea
>>>> cable?
>>>>
>>>> Do I hear KDN; Wananchi; Safaricom; Airtel; Orange et al pick up the
>>>> gauntlet?
>>>>
>>>> Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Lucy Kimani <lkimani at yahoo.com>
>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:28:47
>>>> To: info at alyhussein.com<info at alyhussein.com>
>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?
>>>>
>>>> All I will one up on Francis and Ali why wouldn't a Google for example
>>>> not have dedicated IDCs built in Kenya considering said centers could
>>>> then
>>>> serve east africa and yes it does matter where the data is hosted
>>>> legally if
>>>> such data were to be subpoenaed for whatever reason then if hosted in US
>>>> they would have to be produced hence implications of jurisdiction matter
>>>> in
>>>> that the datacenter is located within US jurisdiction and must therefore
>>>> abide by the laws.
>>>>
>>>> LK
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 11, 2011, at 9:57 AM, "Ali Hussein" <info at alyhussein.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > My two cowries (to quote Francis :) ) :-
>>>> >
>>>> > Why not mirror the service locally? That way we get the best of two
>>>> worlds...
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> >
>>>> > Ali Hussein - Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: lordmwesh <lordmwesh at gmail.com>
>>>> > Sender: kictanet-bounces+info=alyhussein.com at lists.kictanet.or.keDate:
>>>> Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:24:16
>>>> > To: <info at alyhussein.com>
>>>> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?
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