[kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?

lordmwesh lordmwesh at gmail.com
Mon Jul 11 16:24:16 EAT 2011 

Socrata is a hosted platform with a SaaS model, and they do a good job. We
might criticize but very few companies in Kenya can meet such standards.
Don't forget Socrata has been in the business of opening governments for a
while. The service is transparent, with a Pricing catalog for governments
here http://www.socrata.com/solutions/socrata-plans-and-pricing/

Its good to promote local services and products, but not possible always.
For example the laptop or computer we are using is probably manufatured by
an America or European country. A lister with foresight here said that it
was possible to have the system developed and hosted by Kenyans but it would
take 10years, while we want instant results.

regards
Mwendwa

On 11 July 2011 15:56, Edwin Onchari <eonchari at lynxbits.com> wrote:

> That then leads to the question, why host it outside Kenya? The server
> seems to be perpetually down, at least as far as the last tracert by Yawe
> and myself****
>
> ** **
>
> Edwin****
>
> *From:* kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto:
> kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of
> *lordmwesh
> *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2011 3:44 PM
>
> *To:* Edwin
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?****
>
> ** **
>
> According to informed sources, our Open Data is hosted in USA Seatle on
> Soctrata platform at the SAVVIS Cloud center. The real URL address is
> kenya.socrata.com. OpenData.go.ke is just a clever redirect to the
> kenya.socrata.com subdomain.****
>
> On 11 July 2011 12:08, Edwin Onchari <eonchari at lynxbits.com> wrote:****
>
> I am not very good at this, but besides the high latency numbers of over
> 300ms, does this imply that the data is hosted outside of Kenya?****
>
>  ****
>
> Edwin****
>
> *From:* kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke[mailto:
> kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of
> *robert yawe
> *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2011 12:01 PM
> *To:* Edwin****
>
>
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions****
>
> *Subject:* [kictanet] Open Data - Where does it sit?****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> C:\>tracert opendata.go.ke****
>
>  ****
>
> Tracing route to opendata.go.ke [216.227.229.160]****
>
> over a maximum of 30 hops:****
>
>  ****
>
>   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.2****
>
>   2     5 ms     4 ms     4 ms  41.139.207.241****
>
>   3     4 ms     9 ms    15 ms  41-139-255-93.safaricombusiness.co.ke[41.139.25
> ****
>
> 5.93]****
>
>   4     4 ms     4 ms     4 ms  41-139-255-94.safaricombusiness.co.ke[41.139.25
> ****
>
> 5.94]****
>
>   5     5 ms     5 ms     4 ms  41-139-255-49.safaricombusiness.co.ke[41.139.25
> ****
>
> 5.49]****
>
>   6     5 ms     4 ms     4 ms  196.201.222.33****
>
>   7    93 ms    93 ms    98 ms  if-4-2-2.core1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[209.58.105
> ****
>
> .25]****
>
>   8   314 ms   295 ms   294 ms  if-8-1-0-0.tcore1.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[180.87.
> ****
>
> 38.17]****
>
>   9   297 ms   298 ms   297 ms  if-2-2.tcore2.MLV-Mumbai.as6453.net[180.87.38.2
> ****
>
> ]****
>
>  10   289 ms   289 ms   289 ms  if-6-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net[80.231.130.
> ****
>
> 5]****
>
>  11   293 ms   296 ms   300 ms  if-7-2.tcore2.NJY-Newark.as6453.net[80.231.130.
> ****
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> 54]****
>
>  12   298 ms   295 ms   304 ms  if-9-0-0-1108.core3.NTO-NewYork.as6453.net[66.1
> ****
>
> 98.111.50]****
>
>  13   296 ms   288 ms   288 ms  cr2-pos-0-8-0-3.nyr.savvis.net[208.173.129.29]
> ****
>
>  ****
>
>  14   351 ms   350 ms   349 ms  cr1-pos-0-3-1-1.Seattle.savvis.net[204.70.200.6
> ****
>
> ]****
>
>  15     *      387 ms     *     hr2.se2-pos-9-0-0.se2.savvis.net[208.172.81.222
> ****
>
> ]****
>
>  16   342 ms   343 ms   342 ms  209.67.77.62****
>
>  17     *        *        *     Request timed out.****
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>  18     *        *        *     Request timed out.****
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>  19     *        *        *     Request timed out.****
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>  20     *        *        *     Request timed out.****
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>  21     *        *        *     Request timed out.****
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>  29     *        *        *     Request timed out.****
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>  30     *        *        *     Request timed out.****
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>  ****
>
> Trace complete.****
>
>  ****
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya****
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Paul Kukubo <pkukubo at ict.go.ke>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Thu, 7 July, 2011 18:48:50
> *Subject:* [kictanet] Government to Launch Open Data July 8th @KICC****
>
> *Listers*****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *The Government of Kenya, through the Ministry of Information of
> Communications will launch a new Government Open Data Portal on July 8,
> 2011 at the KICC that will, for the first time, make several large
> government datasets available to the general public in an easy to search and
> view format.*   ****
>
>  ****
>
> The launch will be presided over by HE President Mwai Kibaki .****
>
>  ****
>
> Program commences at 9.30 tomorrow.****
>
>  ****
>
> The web portal will allow citizens and the private sector to search and
> display national and county level data in graphs and maps and allow for
> easy comparison and analysis between datasets. ****
>
>  ****
>
> For web and software developers, the portal will avail data in useable
> formats like cvs, Excel and will even include APIs for each dataset.****
>
>  ****
>
> The portal will be one of the first and largest government data portals in
> sub-Saharan Africa. With this launch, Kenya will become a leader among
> developing countries in the adoption of open data - a movement that is
> gathering momentum globally.   ****
>
> * *****
>
> *What is open data?*****
>
> Public information and searchable information are two different things.
> Much public data is already available by law but it's often not usable
> because it is in a format that is not easy to find, use and re-use.
> Published PDF files do not constitute "open data" and are not helpful to
> large-scale users.****
>
>  ****
>
> To be open, data must be:****
>
> ·  easily found through search engines (meta-tagged)****
>
> ·  available in machine readable formats (CSV, XML, APIs not PDF)****
>
> ·  accessible by third party tools/applications (interoperable)****
>
> ·  allow others to use and re-use for non-commercial and commercial use
> (e.g Creative Commons Licences)****
>
> Open Data not only increases transparency and accountability but
> also promotes greater efficiency and effectiveness in the delivery of public
> services by allowing users to easily consume and interpret data****
>
>  ****
>
> This is therefore to invite you to the launch. You can register at the door
> on your arrival.****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Paul Kukubo
> Chief Executive Officer, Kenya ICT Board
> PO Box 27150 - 00100
> Nairobi, Kenya
>
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>
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