[kictanet] KEnic down-Basics of IXPs

Fri Jan 14 17:19:39 EAT 2011

Hallo Robert,

Allow me to point out that amongst the articles on the link Walu provided was input from KIXP published in August 2010 you seem to have missed it. It may also help you to know that since September 2010, through Treasury, the Directorate of E-government in collaboration with related government of Kenya Ministries have been peering at KIXP. This is to enable end users have a better experience in access E-government applications that are ready for use by the general public. If KIXP was a private club then the likes of KRA, and some of the Banks would not use the shared facility. KIXP picked the general principle and working within set guidelines (regulations)to develop standards of operation and value add services that are acceptable to the industry. The Industry Computer Security Incident Response Team (CSIRT) has been set up at the KIXP and from July 2010 has had fulltime staff monitoring the network for incidents and updating specific peering members on issues identified on their respective networks. We are in collaboration with peering government agencies as well as the CCK in establishing a national CSIRT/CERT. It is therefore not practical at this point in time to view the KIXP as strictly private sector entity (club).

It is KIXP’s unique growth strategies supported by innovative solutions within the country that have given it the level of success it has achieved over the years. Effective 1st January 2011, KIXP has become a member of the Euro-IX https://www.euro-ix.net Membership for non-European Internet Exchange Point is based on the value and significance the IXPs are having in their respective regions. For KIXP there are key policies issues at that level that we hope will lead to growth of the KIXP as well as other IXPs in the region.

In view of the level of innovation in the country, I will encourage you, Robert to develop a new open system approach for IXPs and we shall be happy to try it out in so far as it does not breach CCK regulations that govern the IXP and the general purpose of an IXP. 

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Subject: Re: [kictanet] KEnic down-Basics of IXPs

Hi Robert,  where exactly has KIXP failed? In fact they are a success
story that should be promoted as a local version of internet
governance in action. The UG IX on the other hand is a dismal failure
by kixp standards. It loses power fairly regularly, has no full time
staff looking after it and access to it has, until recently, open to
anybody that could convince the askari they should be able to get in.
It is getting better, pole, pole, but NOT because of govt
intervention. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Rgds, mctim

On 1/14/11, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Walu,
>
> I believe we need to come up with local solutions to our peculiar local
> needs, a
> quick example, mobile money transfer is supposed to be for micro payments
> yet in
> Kenya it is the sole payment method for entire organisations.  Central Bank
> did
> not pick some standard developed somewhere to justify not increasing the
> transaction value limit, they looked at the local scenario and made a local
> decision.
>
> KIXP is failing with the so called open systems approach, we need to develop
> a
> solution that will meet our requirements just like we shall soon do with the
> Ocampo 6, lets stop following other peoples strategies blindly we need out
> own
> unique approach.  A believe Uganda has gone one up on us as per a previous
> contribution on this thread.
>
> Lets avoid copy pasting issues like one Kisia who copies bylaws and even
> forgot
> to change street names.
>
> Regards
>  Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Thu, 13 January, 2011 11:08:27
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KEnic down-Basics of IXPs
>
>
> @ Yawe,
> Plse visit
> http://drpeering.net/index.php
>
> and specifically spend some time on
>
> http://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Service-Providers-And-Peering.html
>
> then thereafter you will agree when I say that:
> 1. Most Peering arrangements are (should?) indeed (be) private arrangements.
> 2. Regulating an IXP is not the same as regulating "Interconnection tarrifs
> btwn
> (voice) Telcos"
> 3. Dr. Ndemo and a "Govt" IXP?- to me its sounds like a contradiction of
> terms
> because by nature IXPs tend to be "open systems" rather than closed to one
> stakeholder. Of which government can and should have. But then it would be
> called GCCN -  government common core network rather than an IXP.
>
> walu.
>
> --- On Thu, 1/13/11, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] KEnic down
>>To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 10:09 AM
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>
>>Please note that KIXP is a private club that has loose and unenforceable
>> rules
>>and regulations for its members which is why at peak times a lot of local
>>traffic must get routed via Europe.
>>
>>
>>This explain to you why Dr. Ndemo wanted to setup a separate exchange point
>> to
>>initially provide service to the government and on the  other end I have
>> kept
>>insisting the CCK needs to set up an exchange point with enforceable
>> regulations
>>such as  a minimum bandwidth to it with redundant links.
>>
>>
>>Regards
>> Robert Yawe
>>KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>Kenya
>>
>>
>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> ________________________________
> From: Ngũgĩ Kĩmani <ngugi at mafundi.co.ke>
>>To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Sent: Thu, 13 January, 2011 9:28:42
>>Subject: [kictanet] KEnic down
>>
>>KEnic appears to be down today. Also why is it that traffic through
>> Orange-TKL
>>first goes to Europe before coming back to Nairobi, Kenya? Think KIXP. Are
>> KEnic
>>and Orange-TKL not peering members on KIXP, I would expect them to be
>> pioneer
>>members on  KIXP to serve as role models for other organizations.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>--
>>Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 |
>> http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home
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