[kictanet] KEnic down-Basics of IXPs

[McTim]

Hi Robert,  where exactly has KIXP failed? In fact they are a success
story that should be promoted as a local version of internet
governance in action. The UG IX on the other hand is a dismal failure
by kixp standards. It loses power fairly regularly, has no full time
staff looking after it and access to it has, until recently, open to
anybody that could convince the askari they should be able to get in.
It is getting better, pole, pole, but NOT because of govt
intervention. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Rgds, mctim

On 1/14/11, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Walu,
>
> I believe we need to come up with local solutions to our peculiar local
> needs, a
> quick example, mobile money transfer is supposed to be for micro payments
> yet in
> Kenya it is the sole payment method for entire organisations.  Central Bank
> did
> not pick some standard developed somewhere to justify not increasing the
> transaction value limit, they looked at the local scenario and made a local
> decision.
>
> KIXP is failing with the so called open systems approach, we need to develop
> a
> solution that will meet our requirements just like we shall soon do with the
> Ocampo 6, lets stop following other peoples strategies blindly we need out
> own
> unique approach.  A believe Uganda has gone one up on us as per a previous
> contribution on this thread.
>
> Lets avoid copy pasting issues like one Kisia who copies bylaws and even
> forgot
> to change street names.
>
> Regards
>  Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Thu, 13 January, 2011 11:08:27
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KEnic down-Basics of IXPs
>
>
> @ Yawe,
> Plse visit
> http://drpeering.net/index.php
>
> and specifically spend some time on
>
> http://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Service-Providers-And-Peering.html
>
> then thereafter you will agree when I say that:
> 1. Most Peering arrangements are (should?) indeed (be) private arrangements.
> 2. Regulating an IXP is not the same as regulating "Interconnection tarrifs
> btwn
> (voice) Telcos"
> 3. Dr. Ndemo and a "Govt" IXP?- to me its sounds like a contradiction of
> terms
> because by nature IXPs tend to be "open systems" rather than closed to one
> stakeholder. Of which government can and should have. But then it would be
> called GCCN -  government common core network rather than an IXP.
>
> walu.
>
> --- On Thu, 1/13/11, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] KEnic down
>>To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 10:09 AM
>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>
>>Please note that KIXP is a private club that has loose and unenforceable
>> rules
>>and regulations for its members which is why at peak times a lot of local
>>traffic must get routed via Europe.
>>
>>
>>This explain to you why Dr. Ndemo wanted to setup a separate exchange point
>> to
>>initially provide service to the government and on the  other end I have
>> kept
>>insisting the CCK needs to set up an exchange point with enforceable
>> regulations
>>such as  a minimum bandwidth to it with redundant links.
>>
>>
>>Regards
>> Robert Yawe
>>KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>Kenya
>>
>>
>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> ________________________________
> From: Ngũgĩ Kĩmani <ngugi at mafundi.co.ke>
>>To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Sent: Thu, 13 January, 2011 9:28:42
>>Subject: [kictanet] KEnic down
>>
>>KEnic appears to be down today. Also why is it that traffic through
>> Orange-TKL
>>first goes to Europe before coming back to Nairobi, Kenya? Think KIXP. Are
>> KEnic
>>and Orange-TKL not peering members on KIXP, I would expect them to be
>> pioneer
>>members on  KIXP to serve as role models for other organizations.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>--
>>Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 |
>> http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home
>>
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McTim
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