[kictanet] LISTERS WHERE ARE YOU?

[Wamuyu Gatheru]

Hello Catherine,

We are interested but I note some people views have been dismissed or  
not responded to. For example, Mureithi raised important points on  
development vs regulation that are substantive. I also asked a  
question about which media regulatory body is referred to in the  
Constitution CCK or Media Council. Although these issues may be  
outside the discussion structure, you may want to pay attention to  
them as they are what is of initial concern to listers who have  
contributed - to enable them to engage further.


Thanks for leading the discussion!

Wamuyu
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Quoting Catherine Adeya <elizaslider at yahoo.com>:

> Listers,
>
> You are way too quiet. This is a very important Bill and if we do not get
> adequate contributions, you cannot blame the Ministry if they take it forward
> with the contributions from very few voices. I know you are out  
> there as I have
> seen you come out on many occasions. We move to Day 3 discussions and I
> sincerely hope and pray that I hear from more of you.
>
> Best,
>
> Nyaki
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mwololo Tim <timwololo at gmail.com>
> To: elizaslider at yahoo.com
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Tue, February 15, 2011 4:47:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 2: The Establishment of Independent  
> Commuincations
> Commission of Kenya
>
> Dear all,
>
> I like (4).
>
> I also like Siganga's change in (5). I would however change it  
> further to read:
>
> (5) The Commission must function without any interference from political,
> commercial or other partisan interests.
>
> Regards
>
> tim
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:09 PM, waudo siganga  
> <emailsignet at mailcan.com> wrote:
>
> "is independent of control by government, political or commercial interests;
>> In my mind this leaves a loophole by limiting the scope of those who can
>> interfere with independence to only 3 groups. How about, for example, civil
>> society groups or other groups that do not fit in the three. How about the
>> military, etc. I suggest there should be a "catch-all" in addition to the 3
>> groups so that the reading is like "is independent of control by government,
>> political, commercial or any other partisan interests;".
>>
>> This also fits in with subsction 3(4) where the word "impartial"  
>> (derived from
>> "partisan") is introduced. In the same vein sub-section 3(5) should  
>> be expanded
>> in scope. Strangely there is no consistency in this subsection because
>> "government" is missing and the scope is reduced to only political and
>> commercial. Subsection 3(5) scope should include government as well as the
>> catch-all.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Waudo
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:23 -0800, "Catherine Adeya" <elizaslider at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Listers,
>>> We are on Day 2 of our discussions. Thank you for your thoughts on  
>>> Day 1. It is
>>> evident that there are mixed reactions on the Object of the Bill.  
>>> We will ensure
>>> those responsible keep this in mind and find a suitable middle  
>>> ground, if any.
>>> Some feel that the Object is unnecessary and misleading. Others  
>>> believe it is
>>> okay but what will be critical is the implementation.
>>>
>>> So today flows from the issues on day one as Part II of the Bill  
>>> begins with:
>>> SECTION 3: THE 'ESTABLISHMENT OF INDEPENDENT COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION OF
>>> KENYA' (Commission or ICCK hereafter, my addition):
>>>
>>>
>>> Key issues from this section are:
>>>  4) The Commission is independent, subject only to the Constitution and the
>>> law, and must be impartial and must perform its functions without  
>>> fear, favour
>>> or prejudice.
>>>
>>> Question: Does this communicate to you?
>>> 5) The Commission must function without any political or commercial
>>> interference
>>>
>>> Question: Again does this communicate effectively? Should the  
>>> issue of politics
>>> be separated from the commercial one?Or can we do away with 5 as the issue
>>> should be well covered in 4?
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope for a more vibrant discussion today as this bill is very critical.
>>>
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>> Nyaki
>>>
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