[kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)

Sat Dec 31 20:32:23 EAT 2011

Emmanuel,

I must have read Dr. Ndemo's comment hastily that I couldn't point out
the paragraph you've quoted.
Much apologies to Dr. Ndemo on my misunderstanding.

As we get into the year 2012, let us look for a way to engage
ourselves in making the vision a reality.

Good evening.

Solomon

On 31/12/2011, Emmanuel K. Nzai <enzai at vision2030.go.ke> wrote:
> Solomon,
> A very quick response to CORRECT you. Please read Dr. Ndemo's comment on
> Mugo's moderation and listers' engagement below:
>
> ....." Mugo is one of the most accomplished Kenyan having risen to the
> pinnacle of both Private and Public sectors in Kenya.  I got the feeling
> that we treated him with kid gloves.  I did not see any question with
> respect to our expectation of the public in achieving the vision"....
>
> With all due respect, you either read too fast or completely misunderstood
> the English language. Simply, Dr. Ndemo is challenging the listers like you
> to up your game in engaging Mugo and Vision 2030 - Not the other way round.
>
> Pls. Your perspective on Energy and Vision 2030 is right on point. Let up
> it!
>
> Emmanuel Nzai
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau [mailto:solo.mburu at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:50 AM
> To: enzai at vision2030.go.ke
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)
>
> Dr. Ndemo,
> With due respect, I find your comment on listers' popints to Mr. Mugo
> not satisfying (to your expectations). However, in the foregoing, I
> understand that most of us were not privy to the conception of the
> Vision 2030, and perhaps, we were raisin issues per what we see
> happening, for example on energy. Kenya Power as a monopoly enjoys
> 100% benefit in the power sector, yet in the ccompetitive and
> liberalized world, competition thrives when the market is not capped
> on one firm. Kenya Power, while being good in blackouts, stills enjoys
> support from the government, yet as we speak about achieving the
> Vision, energy is the most important aspect driving us towards the
> realization of the flashship projects pointed out.
> Generally, without education, there is nothing like achieving
> development in it's full scale.
>
> In my view, I think the contributors interrogating Mr. Mugo did their
> level best to make the Vision clear in a layman language, more
> sepcifically, Mr. Mugo himself.
>
> Regards,
>
> Solomon
>
>
> On 31/12/2011, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>> Eric,
>> I am not done with your questions yet.  On Government blocking investment
>> in
>> energy.  This is what we are trying to address: The role of government in
>> enterprise.  If you go deeper into Schumpeter's theory, you will find that
>> no government can block an idea or innovation whose time has come.
>>
>> When Graham Bell invented the telephone, the British Post dismissed the
>> idea
>> saying there were enough messengers around.  With the invention of mobile
>> telephony, the land line is undergoing the same fate it brought to
>> communication early in the 20th century.  This is what is called "creative
>> destruction".
>>
>> We must understand this theory if indeed we want to survive in the days to
>> come.  In my recent visit to China, I saw what the future would be like.
>> A
>> city the size of Nairobi is using both solar and wind energy to light up
>> street lights.  This innovation even in Kenya does not require government
>> approval.  Further we have enriched the Arab world far too long when we
>> use
>> parrafin to power our rudimentally oil lamps.  Instead we should by now
>> have
>> provided a simple battery, a solar panel and a micro wind vane to every
>> household for energy supply.  This will save us billions of dollars that
>> we
>> can invest in preventive medical care.
>>
>> Your problem is that you want to replicate what you have seen in advanced
>> economies.  Your approach would fail.  You must first create the market
>> through simple understandable solutions.  The demands for energy will then
>> be incremental such that even if you were to build 10,000 MW you have a
>> ready market.
>>
>> On colonialism;  This is non sense in my view.  Those who colonized us are
>> dead and most of those who were colonized are dead too.  We must not
>> forget
>> that this happened but our focus should be to build confidence in
>> ourselves
>> to face the world.  Take China for example, Japan dominated them but they
>> have not spent their lives grumbling about the past.  They have faced up
>> to
>> Japan and today they compete on an equal footing.
>>
>> Although parts of Africa are still under the French colony, you must be
>> grateful that the British colonized us.  The British were only interested
>> in
>> domination and material wealth.  The French's integration approach still
>> has
>> implications on their colonies.  Indeed as I write there are Africans in
>> Africa who consider themselves French.  There are African states that
>> still
>> pay French tax.  Mineral resources on African continent still belong to
>> France.
>>
>> I have nothing against the French.  If our Francophone brothers feel
>> comfortable this way, let it be.  The best we can do is to face up to our
>> colonial power, leverage on the Common Wealth
>> Association to build a new alliance that benefits all of us.  Together we
>> have more voting power and ability to lead the agenda.
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Eric M.K Osiakwan" <emko at internetresearch.com.gh>
>> Sender: kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.keDate:
>> Fri,
>> 30 Dec 2011 15:51:57
>> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: [kictanet]  Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)
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