[kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)

Thu Dec 22 02:03:02 EAT 2011

Grace,

Sorry, but I'm afraid what we pointed out seems to be lost in all this.

Specifically speaking, there have been blue prints gathering dust on the
shelves for ages, and it might just be 

that this is the time we are embarking on implementing some of them.

Put in another way, we also gifted the blue prints to the Asian Tigers,
20-30 years ago and so we lost out in 

the ensuing race to develop. They are where they are and we are where we are
right now, because of what

they did and we did not.  So of course, this cost us.

One of the poignant lessons we must be prepared to learn and correct moving
forward, are precisely these 

kind of misplaced priorities in the past.

When we talk of "where did the rain start beating us", we must identify the
leakage points on the roof and

what caused them, scale up there and fix. Next , we'll put such measures in
place that will ensure never

again will we have a roof leaking above us..

I hope this explanation helps.

Harry

From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
Behalf Of Grace Githaiga
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:34 PM
To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)

Listers

Thanks to all who have kept this debate going, and to Mugo for extending his
time to elaborate, clarify and provide us with feedback on our queries.
Highly appreciated. It is also good to know that the Vision 2030 Secretariat
conducts annual reviews to prioritize flagship projects. This should be an
opportunity for us to engage and also make suggestions on the reviews.

Lucy, great suggestions that should provide for food for thought. 

Yawe, a good question not just for Mugo but for all development conscious
Kenyans: where did we go wrong when we had the right agenda over 40 years
ago? Could it be that we lost it as Walubengo 
avers, the moment we adopted corruption as a way of life? And what does this
imply for vision 2030?

Yes Harry, like PS Ndemo suggests, it is time to stop complaining (but you
know we are Kenyans and must vent :)), and fetch those blue prints (maybe
they are dusty, and thanks to Yawe for reminding us), re-evaluate them,
align them with the current context, and most imporant IMPLEMENT. 

Aguyo, an opportunity right there for you to influence/participate in part
of the implementation of the Vision 2030 as it continues to evolve. Mugo has
extended  that chance to you to provide your technical ideas on Vision 2030
and open data integration. 

PS Ndemo, not sure that your wonderful idea of having think tanks to provide
analysis of candidates for leadership positions would be popular in
particular with our politicians. Might be a long shot although we need this
for vision 2030.  That idea of restructring ourselves along the lines of
complainers, analyzers and solution proposers should be food for thought to
all of us. Can we be solution proposers? And listers, can we make IT
suggestions to help strengthen the vision?

A wonderful day to all of you.

Rgds
Grace

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is
all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth
and rule the World!

  _____  

Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:59:14 -0800
From: lkimani at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)
To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke

Bw. Mugo,

Thanks for taking the time to address the issues raised so far.  I would
like add my pesa nane on the Vision 2030 Social Pillar which closely ties in
with the Millenium Development Goals.  From the MTP Report attached for
listers, I was shocked to read that the Goal 5 "Improve Maternal Health" is
one that is unachievable and actually increased from 414 in 2003 to 488 in
2009?  Yet this is one that should be easier to address through education
via social media through vehicles such as the digital villages to
disseminate information on the importance of maternal health.  Programs
enlisting churches as partners in spreading the word and most importantly a
concerted effort by the GOK in funding clinics that focus on providing
healthy supplemental foods and nutrition counseling for pregnant women, new
mothers, infants and children especially in rural areas.  Numerous studies
have shown that pregnant women who participate in similar programs have
longer pregnancies leading to fewer premature births; have fewer low birth
weight babies; experience fewer fetal and infant deaths since they seek
prenatal care earlier in pregnancy and consume more of such key nutrients as
iron, protein, calcium and Vitamin C.

I found the report to be defeatist in the assessment of this particular goal
and would hope for a re-evaluation and better planning in attaining the goal
in a Vision 2030 kind of way:-)

Lucy 

--- On Wed, 12/14/11, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)
To: lkimani at yahoo.com
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2011, 5:46 PM

Bwana Kibati

No problem at all and thanks informing us of when we are likely to hear from
you.  We understand that some days can just be too hectic. Please do respond
to the various questions in whichever order you feel comfortable. After all,
they are all interlinked, and I bet will still generate further debate. 

We will therefore continue with the discussion as we wait.

Aguyo, critical question you raise. How will Vision 2030 use ICTs to inform
the public on the status of flagship projects and their linkage to open
data? 

Matunda the point you make that ICTs can be used by government for real time
financial management to reduce leakage (kickbacks and price inflation) is
interesting.  

We move on to Day 3 of this debate.

We move onto the second pillar which is the Social Pillar.
http://www.vision2030.go.ke/index.php/pillars/index/social

The objective of the Social Pillar is to invest in the people of Kenya in
order to improve the quality of life for all Kenyans by targeting a
cross-section of human and social welfare projects and programmes,
specifically: Education and training, Health, Environment, Housing and
urbanisation, Gender, children and social development, Youth and sports.

 Listers, tuendelee kuwakilisha. You can still raise your concerns on the
vision, the foundations and the economic pillar (Day 1 and 2).

Rgds
Grace
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------
If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is
all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth
and rule the World!

  _____  

CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
From: mugo at vision2030.go.ke
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 2)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:19:14 +0300
To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com

Hi all,

I just got home after a rather hectic day. I have seen your numerous
questions and hope you will indulge my responding to the various questions
and comments over the next 48 in no particular order.

Regards,

Mugo

Sent from my iPad

.

-----Inline Attachment Follows-----

_______________________________________________
kictanet mailing list
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
<http://us.mc1206.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.
ke> 
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet

Unsubscribe or change your options at
http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lkimani%40yahoo.com

The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for
people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.

KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20111222/762d59ae/attachment.htm>