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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Grace,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry, but I’m afraid what we pointed out seems to be lost in all this…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Specifically speaking, there have been blue prints gathering dust on the shelves for ages, and it might just be <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>that this is the time we are embarking on implementing some of them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Put in another way, we also gifted the blue prints to the Asian Tigers, 20-30 years ago and so we lost out in <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>the ensuing race to develop. They are where they are and we are where we are right now, because of what<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>they did and we did not. So of course, this cost us.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One of the poignant lessons we must be prepared to learn and correct moving forward, are precisely these <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>kind of misplaced priorities in the past.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When we talk of “where did the rain start beating us”, we must identify the leakage points on the roof and<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>what caused them, scale up there and fix. Next , we’ll put such measures in place that will ensure never<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>again will we have a roof leaking above us..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I hope this explanation helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Grace Githaiga<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> harry@comtelsys.co.ke<br><b>Cc:</b> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Listers<br> <br>Thanks to all who have kept this debate going, and to Mugo for extending his time to elaborate, clarify and provide us with feedback on our queries. Highly appreciated. It is also good to know that the Vision 2030 Secretariat conducts annual reviews to prioritize flagship projects. This should be an opportunity for us to engage and also make suggestions on the reviews.<br> <br>Lucy, great suggestions that should provide for food for thought. <br> <br>Yawe, a good question not just for Mugo but for all development conscious Kenyans: where did we go wrong when we had the right agenda over 40 years ago? Could it be that we lost it as Walubengo <br>avers, the moment we adopted corruption as a way of life? And what does this imply for vision 2030?<br> <br>Yes Harry, like PS Ndemo suggests, it is time to stop complaining (but you know we are Kenyans and must vent :)), and fetch those blue prints (maybe they are dusty, and thanks to Yawe for reminding us), re-evaluate them, align them with the current context, and most imporant IMPLEMENT. <br> <br>Aguyo, an opportunity right there for you to influence/participate in part of the implementation of the Vision 2030 as it continues to evolve. Mugo has extended that chance to you to provide your technical ideas on Vision 2030 and open data integration. <br> <br>PS Ndemo, not sure that your wonderful idea of having think tanks to provide analysis of candidates for leadership positions would be popular in particular with our politicians. Might be a long shot although we need this for vision 2030. That idea of restructring ourselves along the lines of complainers, analyzers and solution proposers should be food for thought to all of us. Can we be solution proposers? And listers, can we make IT suggestions to help strengthen the vision?<br> <br>A wonderful day to all of you.<br> <br>Rgds<br>Grace<br> <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World!<br><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:59:14 -0800<br>From: lkimani@yahoo.com<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)<br>To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<br>CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bw. Mugo,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for taking the time to address the issues raised so far. I would like add my pesa nane on the Vision 2030 Social Pillar which closely ties in with the Millenium Development Goals. From the MTP Report attached for listers, I was shocked to read that the Goal 5 "Improve Maternal Health" is one that is unachievable and actually increased from 414 in 2003 to 488 in 2009? Yet this is one that should be easier to address through education via social media through vehicles such as the digital villages to disseminate information on the importance of maternal health. Programs enlisting churches as partners in spreading the word and most importantly a concerted effort by the GOK in funding clinics that focus on providing healthy supplemental foods and nutrition counseling for pregnant women, new mothers, infants and children especially in rural areas. Numerous studies have shown that pregnant women who participate in similar programs have longer pregnancies leading to fewer premature births; have fewer low birth weight babies; experience fewer fetal and infant deaths since they seek prenatal care earlier in pregnancy and consume more of such key nutrients as iron, protein, calcium and Vitamin C.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I found the report to be defeatist in the assessment of this particular goal and would hope for a re-evaluation and better planning in attaining the goal in a Vision 2030 kind of way:-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Lucy <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:TimesNewRoman'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 12/14/11, Grace Githaiga <i><ggithaiga@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 3)<br>To: lkimani@yahoo.com<br>Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2011, 5:46 PM<o:p></o:p></p><div id=ecxyiv1066393951><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bwana Kibati</span><br> <br><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>No problem at all and thanks informing us of when we are likely to hear from you. We understand that some days can just be too hectic. Please do respond to the various questions in whichever order you feel comfortable. After all, they are all interlinked, and I bet will still generate further debate. </span><br> <br><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We will therefore continue with the discussion as we wait.</span><br> <br><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Aguyo, critical question you raise. How will Vision 2030 use ICTs to inform the public on the status of flagship projects and their linkage to open data? </span><br> <br><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Matunda the point you make that ICTs can be used by government for real time financial management to reduce leakage (kickbacks and price inflation) is interesting. </span><br><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <br><strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We move on to Day 3 of this debate.</span></strong></span><br> <br><strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We move onto the second pillar which is the Social Pillar. <a href="http://www.vision2030.go.ke/index.php/pillars/index/social" target="_blank">http://www.vision2030.go.ke/index.php/pillars/index/social</a></span></strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br> <br>The objective of the Social Pillar is to invest in the people of Kenya in order to improve the quality of life for all Kenyans by targeting a cross-section of human and social welfare projects and programmes, specifically: Education and training, Health, Environment, Housing and urbanisation, Gender, children and social development, Youth and sports.<br><br> Listers, tuendelee kuwakilisha. You can still raise your concerns on the vision, the foundations and the economic pillar (Day 1 and 2).</span><br> <br><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Rgds</span><br><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Grace<br></span>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>If you have the strength to survive, you have the power to succeed. Life is all about choices we make depending upon the situation we are in. Go forth and rule the World!<br><br> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=ecxyiv1066393951stopSpelling></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<br>From: mugo@vision2030.go.ke<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 2)<br>Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:19:14 +0300<br>To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I just got home after a rather hectic day. I have seen your numerous questions and hope you will indulge my responding to the various questions and comments over the next 48 in no particular order.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mugo<br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>kictanet mailing list<br><a href="http://us.mc1206.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet%40lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br><br>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lkimani%40yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lkimani%40yahoo.com</a><br><br>The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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