[kictanet] Bitange for President? Debate almost coming to anend!

S.M. Muraya murigi.muraya at gmail.com
Fri Aug 26 14:07:23 EAT 2011


Dakitari Ndemo,

Really hope we have you in government as a public official (whether
appointed or elected) until 2030.

Trust the e-gov policy coming up (2011 or 2012?) will incorporate some of
our ideas.

Saw the CCK brief on services gaps. Good work you are all doing there.

Also tested the CCK complaints web service / form. We will see how it goes.

Well utilized information / communication systems can make it easier to tell
if investigations are personalized or systematic. Much evidence lies therein
as to whether social services are provided or not.

After Orange Kenya announced (on the list) their improved data service
(noted speeds of 7Mbs yesterday) I will also point out to vendor specific
case studies showing a side of local governance in the UK & US.

Kenyans building Kenya primarily for Kenyans should be supported as much if
not more than Foreign Investors.
We know nation building is local.. residents building and managing their
neighborhood / village, town or city.

City of Salford.. http://www.salford.gov.uk/
Their (ugly) website surveys visitors on how council services can be
improved.
Population is about 220,000 people -- lower than Ruiru or Eldoret.. Now
cities under the new Act.. Yes? No?
Residents can reach / hear from councillors online.
http://www.salfordcouncillors.info/


According to this Microsoft white paper (4 pages) every one of Salford City
Council's 10,000 or so employees is accessible via e-mail & voice to deliver
services within the council and to the public.

http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/Case_Study_Detail.aspx?CaseStudyID=4000008507

It is possible to contact via email or IM, a Salford city council employee
concerned (or not) with fixing the potholes or vandalized lighting in
particular estates / (sub) locations.

Something similar in the USA.. The City of San Franciso -- population of
just over 800,000 in 2010
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/19/BUB51JHPR1.DTL&type=printable

23,000 workers on e-mail..






On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:47 AM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:

> Grace,
> Besides being busy with CCK services gap report presentations, I have come
> to fear the Blackberry. It does not know good English and in most cases
> overwrites what you intended to say, since I get embarrased with I shall use
> it sparingly.
>
> I did not fear Muraya's question. It is appropriate and one that needs
> careful attention. The US has a mature legal system that they have built
> over 200 years. Their investgations are not personalized and often they
> focus on getting to the root couse of the problem. That is why they use plea
> bargain as the best method to get to the root cause. You cannot catch a drug
> dealer unless you use one of them to do the job and give immunity.
>
> In Kenya we send the police and hope they can get into the minds of
> criminals. It is only recently we passed the witness protection act. This is
> the right step but we are not there. I am sure you have heard the saying
> "use a thief to catch a thief". This is true and we must have in the law.
> Get a thief or drug dealer, give one of them immunity. You will get the list
> of all drug barons.
>
> In todays papers, one media house killed a story on a comprehensively
> investigated drug story. Just think what message is the media boss sending
> to young investigators? It cannot be that only the police is to conduct
> investigations. We all have a role to play. If I succeed as "candidate" I
> shall recomend the young lads for Moran of the Burning Spear. They should
> post some of their findings on youtube. It is only through social media that
> we develop checks and balances with media and society. Government cannot
> honestly take that role.
>
> I still have to remind you of us embracing minimum value system and simply
> being honest to each other. This is key since MPs are not destroying the
> ethics bill due to honesty or interest of a nation. We shall get what they
> think is law in their own eyes. This brings me to the famouse computer quote
> "garbage in garbage out". If the ethics law is flawed then the
> investigations would be flawed and the outcomes would be flawed. When Muraya
> says we cannot do simple things like arresting drug lords in the country, he
> is not getting to the root cause of the problem.
>
> All hope is not lost though. We have chapter six in the constitution. It is
> leadership and intergrity. We have a chance to use it properly next year.
> Get rid of those giving us bad laws that keep on shaming us wherever we go.
>
> In 1982 coup attempt I was at Eclipse Discoteque when we were arested and
> taken to Kilimani Police. Here I met the famous Titus Andungosi. He told
> those us joining him at the cell that we must cooperate for a common good.
> He said since we used buckets for toilet nobody should shit when night fells
> and that we should do it in early morning as we can take it out and not
> suffer the smell. As he read his red Bible he always reminded us that it
> will take only one person to mess our night. And it takes just a few to mess
> our law and order.
>
> My charge was loitering and with a few others we were taken to court and
> fined Ksh. 1,000. Andungosi died in Prison. In his rememberance, I have
> played Kenny Roger's Coward of the county once every month.
>
> We must work together for the good of all and we must get rid of those
> destroy our future.
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> ------------------------------
> *From: * Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
> *Date: *Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:39:10 +0000
> *To: *<bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> *Cc: *<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Subject: *RE: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Debate almost coming to
> an end!
>
> Bw Ndemo
>
> Thank you for all your responses to various queries raised by the "Kictanet
> constituency" .
>
> I want to agree with you that Kenya should not accept donor funding when it
> is not needed, and in particular when it will demand alot of time to meet
> the conditionalities.
>
> I sensed your frustration in dealing with corruption in this country but
> found your question on whether there is a possibility of scaling up the
> practice from Western Kenya of making thieves eat grass quite hilarious.
> But like you point out,  if it can effectively be used to get all those who
> have stolen from the public pay for it, it might be useful to explore.
> Listers are yet to respond to your query.
>
> Swaggerific! Yes I agree with you. I think it is not only bad but
> offensive.  This is an issue that citizens will have to support you as
> 'President' on how to control such content.
>
> Muraya wondered how come the US has evidence on Kenya's drug dealers
> and the Kenya Police lack such information. What is your position on Police
> stations getting hooked up via IP network to data bases of fingerprints,
> DNA, criminal profiles etc. Again, this was raised with a background
> of rooting out corruption in the forces.
>
> Listers, the campaign period is almost coming to an end. Your last chance
> to interrogate the Candidate.
> Rgds
> GG
>
>
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> and rule the World!
>
>
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