[kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public Demand(off-topic)

Fri Aug 12 23:58:36 EAT 2011

Barrack,

Its not illegal to comment unless there is a gag order or you are a
party in the case..

On this list, we continue talking about many cases ...

Again, I am not a lawyer..

Thanks

On 8/12/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> Liko,
> As Walu suggests, let's avoid commenting on an issue that is before
> the courts, the law has a very long arm.
>
> On 8/12/11, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Walu
>>
>> Thanks for the contribution.
>>
>> Daktari has made a very good and very appealing pitch .. But its about
>> what can be done, the Kenya we want...
>>
>> As part of leadership, I would love to hear his views on this issue,
>> am sure Daktari has views, I would like to have them flow
>>
>> On the mailing list ..
>>
>> :)
>>
>> On 8/11/11, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> @Liko,
>>>
>>> am not a lawyer but I can tell you once a matter is in court, it would be
>>> dangerous to comment on the same - especially for an office like the PS.
>>>
>>> however, as a layman, I probably may get away with a comment or two. So
>>> here
>>> is how I see it.
>>> 1. Looks like this Mutoro man did indeed walk the talk and sued.
>>> 2. Looks like he has won round one and may as well win the next round.
>>> 3. HOWEVER, there's really a "new" board in place and therefore
>>> 4. If the issue in dispute was that the DGs appointment was irregular due
>>> to
>>> lack of Board blessing THEN now
>>> 5. there's nothing that stops the "new" board from providing the said
>>> blessing and HENCE
>>> 6. projected end game: DG out for now, DG back later.
>>>
>>> hmm sound like a computer program - been while since I coded :-(
>>>
>>> walu.
>>> nb: apologies to the GG/Ndemo for the commercial break, plse continue
>>> with
>>> the Presidential manifesto topics...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 8/11/11, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public
>>> Demand
>>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 4:49 PM
>>>
>>> Dr Ndemo
>>>
>>> Very illuminating thoughts :)
>>>
>>> Now, tell us what is happening at CCK
>>>
>>> On 8/11/11, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>>> Grace,
>>>> Thank you for extending the debate to Monday.  I hope I get time to
>>>> articulate some of the issues that will impact our lives in the next few
>>>> years.  Earlier I said that we are not alone in how we are dealing with
>>>> our social development.  I went ahead and gave examples from the US and
>>>> UK.  Although it is an unfortunate for the British people, it has come
>>>> to
>>>> pass.  Even the Central Bank we got some good debate out of my post.
>>>>
>>>> Leadership requires selfless commitment to the people they lead.  It is
>>>> a
>>>> sacrifice one makes.  In this respect, I will seek for advisors who have
>>>> demonstrated ability to serve their country with dedication.  We have
>>>> these people but they have never been given a chance to lead. The
>>>> constitution has accorded us the opportunity to search for such people.
>>>> If you read today’s front page Standard, it has the requirement for
>>>> those
>>>> who want to join the electoral commission.  If we follow the requirement
>>>> to the letter, we shall get credible people.  It is this process that
>>>> lacked before and political operatives took charge in many posts within
>>>> government.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed there will be a policy guideline on all organizations registered
>>>> under Societies Act.  It is in the interest of the public that these
>>>> organizations file annual returns to the registrar because they are tax
>>>> exempt.  Tax exemption means that we the public partly fund their
>>>> activities.  Further the state has a responsibility to protect its
>>>> citizens from being taken advantage of.  We cannot burry our heads in
>>>> the
>>>> sand on this issue no matter how sensitive it is.  We shall also be
>>>> implementing our constitution with respect to Bill of Rights.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ndemo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Listers
>>>>>
>>>>> We have received requests  (offline) that we allow "Candidate" Ndemo
>>>>> more
>>>>> time for him to respond to more concerns being raised.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is to let you know that the 'official campaign period" has been
>>>>> extended up to Monday August 15, 2011.
>>>>>
>>>>> And now Dr. Ndemo, Harry Delano did ask you to say what kind of
>>>>> advisors
>>>>> you would be looking for to help shape policy. Can we hear you on this
>>>>> one
>>>>> too? You also make a valid point about churches and the fact that they
>>>>> are
>>>>> not audited. I know for example in Washington DC, Parish priests have
>>>>> to
>>>>> present audited accounts to Parishoners once a year, while the Bishop
>>>>> fundraises through a system that is open to public scrutiny. Would you
>>>>> then make a policy decision on this? On a light note, may I remind you
>>>>> that your responses will go into the 'manifesto' and translate into
>>>>> more
>>>>> or less "votes" :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Listers, let the debate continue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rgds
>>>>> GG
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> forth and rule the World!
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