[kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public Demand(off-topic)

Fri Aug 12 23:49:52 EAT 2011

Liko,
As Walu suggests, let's avoid commenting on an issue that is before
the courts, the law has a very long arm.

On 8/12/11, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
> Walu
>
> Thanks for the contribution.
>
> Daktari has made a very good and very appealing pitch .. But its about
> what can be done, the Kenya we want...
>
> As part of leadership, I would love to hear his views on this issue,
> am sure Daktari has views, I would like to have them flow
>
> On the mailing list ..
>
> :)
>
> On 8/11/11, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> @Liko,
>>
>> am not a lawyer but I can tell you once a matter is in court, it would be
>> dangerous to comment on the same - especially for an office like the PS.
>>
>> however, as a layman, I probably may get away with a comment or two. So
>> here
>> is how I see it.
>> 1. Looks like this Mutoro man did indeed walk the talk and sued.
>> 2. Looks like he has won round one and may as well win the next round.
>> 3. HOWEVER, there's really a "new" board in place and therefore
>> 4. If the issue in dispute was that the DGs appointment was irregular due
>> to
>> lack of Board blessing THEN now
>> 5. there's nothing that stops the "new" board from providing the said
>> blessing and HENCE
>> 6. projected end game: DG out for now, DG back later.
>>
>> hmm sound like a computer program - been while since I coded :-(
>>
>> walu.
>> nb: apologies to the GG/Ndemo for the commercial break, plse continue with
>> the Presidential manifesto topics...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 8/11/11, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public
>> Demand
>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 4:49 PM
>>
>> Dr Ndemo
>>
>> Very illuminating thoughts :)
>>
>> Now, tell us what is happening at CCK
>>
>> On 8/11/11, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>> Grace,
>>> Thank you for extending the debate to Monday.  I hope I get time to
>>> articulate some of the issues that will impact our lives in the next few
>>> years.  Earlier I said that we are not alone in how we are dealing with
>>> our social development.  I went ahead and gave examples from the US and
>>> UK.  Although it is an unfortunate for the British people, it has come to
>>> pass.  Even the Central Bank we got some good debate out of my post.
>>>
>>> Leadership requires selfless commitment to the people they lead.  It is a
>>> sacrifice one makes.  In this respect, I will seek for advisors who have
>>> demonstrated ability to serve their country with dedication.  We have
>>> these people but they have never been given a chance to lead. The
>>> constitution has accorded us the opportunity to search for such people.
>>> If you read today’s front page Standard, it has the requirement for those
>>> who want to join the electoral commission.  If we follow the requirement
>>> to the letter, we shall get credible people.  It is this process that
>>> lacked before and political operatives took charge in many posts within
>>> government.
>>>
>>> Indeed there will be a policy guideline on all organizations registered
>>> under Societies Act.  It is in the interest of the public that these
>>> organizations file annual returns to the registrar because they are tax
>>> exempt.  Tax exemption means that we the public partly fund their
>>> activities.  Further the state has a responsibility to protect its
>>> citizens from being taken advantage of.  We cannot burry our heads in the
>>> sand on this issue no matter how sensitive it is.  We shall also be
>>> implementing our constitution with respect to Bill of Rights.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Ndemo.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Listers
>>>>
>>>> We have received requests  (offline) that we allow "Candidate" Ndemo
>>>> more
>>>> time for him to respond to more concerns being raised.
>>>>
>>>> This is to let you know that the 'official campaign period" has been
>>>> extended up to Monday August 15, 2011.
>>>>
>>>> And now Dr. Ndemo, Harry Delano did ask you to say what kind of advisors
>>>> you would be looking for to help shape policy. Can we hear you on this
>>>> one
>>>> too? You also make a valid point about churches and the fact that they
>>>> are
>>>> not audited. I know for example in Washington DC, Parish priests have to
>>>> present audited accounts to Parishoners once a year, while the Bishop
>>>> fundraises through a system that is open to public scrutiny. Would you
>>>> then make a policy decision on this? On a light note, may I remind you
>>>> that your responses will go into the 'manifesto' and translate into more
>>>> or less "votes" :)
>>>>
>>>> Listers, let the debate continue.
>>>>
>>>> Rgds
>>>> GG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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