[kictanet] Bitange for President? DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo

S.Murigi Muraya murigi.muraya at gmail.com
Sun Aug 7 21:28:03 EAT 2011


Good Work..

Are churches not expected to keep their giving (alms) secret except to those
who give to the churches?

Those of us who love beer, EABL pay for it, those who pay for Christianity
do so because it saved them from wasting their lives & families -- more than
10% of their income.

If church organizations / images / initiatives are banned / burned in
Northern Kenya / Somalia, would it be wise to publicize any church aid
given?


On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:28 PM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:

> Harry,
> Thank you for taking some time to read my views on how we can make our
> country a better place to live in.  Several listers have directly asked me
> many things off-list.  Basically, most of them want me to "share my
> views", "encourage their folks", "lecture their people", go to their local
> county or meet professional from their respective counties.  I am grateful
> but will not be able to all this at this time for a simple reason- we are
> in an election mode and this why.
>
> I have four Individual Social Responsibility (ISR) projects.  These
> projects are in Kisii (where I was born), in Kiambu (where I live), in
> Nyeri (where I went to school and where my kids go to school) and in Homa
> Bay (where my close relative got married).  While the central Kenya
> projects have gone well, the Nyanza ones have been a major disappointment.
>  In the Nyanza projects people there say that I am doing this because I
> will ask them some day to vote for me and as such the projects are
> considered a bribe.  If I expanded to other parts of the country even for
> speaking missions, it will even impact my projects more.
>
> I have decided to go slow in non performing projects till after the
> elections.  It is difficult to help people but I am happy since the
> resources I use come from my individual tithing.  I stopped giving my 10%
> to Church since there were no audits and I did not want to rock the boat
> instead I give directly to projects of choice.  God is capable of
> deciphering my intentions.  Every month therefore I set aside between
> 35,000 and 40,000 for this cause.
>
> In my previous posts I dealt with the resources that Churches have
> amassed.  The Banks will tell you in Nairobi that banking from all manner
> of Church collections amount to between 3 and 5 billion shillings every
> Monday morning.  This is coming from the poor but they have not parted
> with even 100 million for hunger in Northern Kenya.  In the previous
> debate some listers took my posting verbatim to NCCK.  Later I was asked
> to address representatives from 150 different churches in Mombasa.  I
> repeated what I had written and urged them to get more involved in social
> development in this country.  We compromised that I go slow on my
> statements and they will start social enterprises.  To date only a handful
> that have started the social enterprises to help create jobs.  We must at
> all times help raise such issues and be the advocates of the poor not just
> when we are “candidates”.
>
> Regards
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
> > Bwana Ps,
> >
> > First and foremost our condolences, for the loss....
> >
> > Secondly, I'd really wish to commend the moderator who set this thread
> > off.
> > For once we have a lively healthy debate,
> > modelled alongside the live presidential hopeful debates often times held
> > elsewhere in more mature democracies.This
> > is the way to go and it heralds exciting times ahead. I suppose this
> forum
> > is so well poised to play a leading role in the
> > National discourse aimed at building a better Kenya. So let's keep this
> > up,
> > and perhaps rope in the other "contenders".
> >
> > But 3rdly, this "Sumptuous" debate is also turning out to be highly
> > educative and hugely informational for most of our silent
> > listeners on the list, who are furiously "taking notes". Dr.Ndemo,many of
> > us
> > are just realizing to our utter amazement how
> > much level of knowledge you possess and are willing to share, and your
> > amount of energy is so infectious, that somehow I
> > in my opinion feel we need not limit you to this forum,but find ways in
> > which we can have you engage an even wider and
> > more larger audience out here especially those from the generation Y
> > segment. Listers any ideas...?  Would Townhall style
> > lectures suffice...? Just thinking..
> >
> > I couldn't help noticing an earlier debate touching on infrastructure and
> > feeding our nation, and in the same vein I have also
> > taken a hard look at the events taking place across our country right
> > now,and the greater horn of Africa,and it would be an
> > understatement when I say it's really infuriating to say the least. It
> > defeats any imagination why after independence, 51 yrs
> > down the line we are not self sufficient in food production, with several
> > corners of the nation marginalized such that even
> > humanitarian aid donated by other well meaning Kenyans can not reach
> those
> > who need it most because there is no
> > infrastructure such as roads and communication to even talk about in the
> > first place... It's maddening..
> >
> > How do you plan to balance infrastructural development across the land,
> to
> > avoid over-concentration in specific zones at
> > the expense of the rest...?
> >
> > At the same time, what kind/quality of advisers would you be looking for
> > to
> > help you shape policy/decision making.
> > A presidency or leadership is just as good or bad as the quality of the
> > courtiers that gather around.
> >
> > Harry
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
> > Behalf Of bitange at jambo.co.ke
> > Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 9:01 PM
> > To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President?
> > DrivingKnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterviewwith PS Ndemo
> >
> >
> > Aki,
> > We are meeting Konza Technology City possible underwriters (local Banks)
> > on
> > Monday morning 7am at Serena. Please come. Many of the quesions you ask
> > will
> > be answered then you can make a summary for the listers.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Ndemo.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerryR
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: aki <aki275 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 19:45:44 +0300
> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Cc: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Driving
> > KnowledgeEconomy?OnlineInterview with PS Ndemo
> >
> >
> > Dr Ndemo,
> >
> > While we look forward to a comprehensive response on the High Tech
> Sector/
> > Malili as soon as you have some time, I believe that you mentioned that
> > completion is about 3 years away. That seems is not a lot of time to get
> > e.g
> > at least 50 companies who have significant turnovers coming close to
> about
> > Kshs 500 million with a % on exports. I think there may be a need for a
> > review. I already read that IBM super-team is in the country and done
> some
> > indepth research and assessment into e-Govt, it maybe a good time to ask
> > them to re-access the current trends. Mobile, Web and Social technologiy
> > development platforms trends may only produce slim domestic interest with
> > extremely small turnovers and virtually impossible that either can later
> > contribute to significant economic growth.
> >
> > There could an alternative which would be to look at Comesa/Igad or other
> > markets within our region, create Govt/Private ICT or other sector
> > development action groups to be based at Malili which would also provide
> > Venture Capitalists/Investors an avenue for serious interests. I've had a
> > look at very basic Comesa data, seems Agricultural engineering would do
> > well
> > here. I think JUKAT has the foundations of producing such engineers.
> > However, there is not enough data to full research what Agricultural
> > Engineering and ICT development can do.
> >
> > Also the topic of electricity generation has raised a manufacturing
> > interest. Is any Kenyan company manufacturing the High Voltage Lines
> > insulators ( ceramic/glass based in many cases ) or are we importing
> > these?
> > Each High/Low Power line on every mounted pole needs these isolators.
> > http://knol.google.com/k/overhead-line-insulators
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Rgds.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 10:54 AM, aki <aki275 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thank you Dr Ndemo, and will await to read the comprehensive response.
> :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:45 AM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Aki,
> > Whereas by chance one of the aaplications developed here may become a
> > global
> > brand, we do not want to leave to chance. That is why we are developing
> > centers of excellency, standards and incubators to make sure we part of
> > global standards. There is much learning that we must go through. The
> > reason
> > we should seek to collaborate while guarding our inventions.
> >
> > As I write, we are working on a digital economy policy. We shall come up
> > with a specific legislation in this emerging sector. Create special
> > incentives that would propel it to greater levels.
> >
> > We also must deal with Universities inorder to create the triple helix
> > that
> > has worked in many parts of the world. Strathmore is leading in the right
> > direction. We want to fully their patnership with Sumsang and Safaricom.
> > Through such arrangement we create capacities that lead to new other
> > enterprises.
> >
> > This is an area I have the greatest interest and would want to explore. I
> > am
> > using the annoying Blackberry so please allow me to respond more
> > comprehensively when I get to a real keyboard.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ndemo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerryR
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: aki <aki275 at gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 09:13:11 +0300
> > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Cc: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Driving Knowledge
> > Economy?OnlineInterview with PS Ndemo
> >
> > Dr Ndemo,
> >
> > I have a final question on regarding the creation of the High Tech Sector
> > in
> > preparation for Malili. While cheaper rent or infrastructure facilities
> > maybe an additional advantage, I think we are still to find a way to push
> > private sector and govt incentives/policies on creating the High Tech
> > Sector. I believe we are no where at the moment, neither the mobile or
> web
> > development sectors even come close to becoming the next billion shilling
> > industry sectors. These two sectors are in a transition mode where the
> > demand is for more localised settings.
> >
> > What will the govt do to ensure that kenyan companies start looking at
> > holding patents and developing the needs of external markets based on
> > technology trends. I think the last thing we would want to see is a
> > scenario
> > where kenyans in ICT become more of daily wage labourers on contract
> > basis.
> > While this may seem an ideal employment creation scenario, the results
> > will
> > be negative in the long term.
> >
> > What steps and incentives will create the High Tech Sector companies and
> > will opening up the development of critical govt sectors offer an
> > incentive
> > to create broad based technologies?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Rgds.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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