[kictanet] Statistics on Kenya Road Accidents

Fri Apr 1 21:10:55 EAT 2011

Thank you bwana PS for your feedback

But I think you misunderstood my main concern

I mentioned here that the Police website does have Crime reports with
the latest statistics as late as 2010.

While this may look like a criticism I believe and stand to be
corrected that it does not make sense to have half information and
leave some out.

I do know the police traffic dept does receive regularly update
information on accidents and other incidences my issue is why can't
this also be made available online?

I appreciate that the govt is working on improving and digitizing the
current delivery sytem of information but we cannot runaway from some
of the inefficiency that we face daily when we visit government
agencies!
My frustrations are based on experiences and if this platform will
help the govt do something about it then so be it.

And my apologies if in the course of airing my grievances I may have
insulted anybody that was never my intention.

Rgds
Henry

On 4/1/11, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> Henry,
> It will be polite to ask if you can have access to data rather than
> starting with complaining.  You know very well we are woking on Freedom of
> Information Bill as well as an open data portal.  I have discussed the two
> issues here.  The Government is digitalizing much of the data which of
> course shall be available to you.
>
> In most offices what you will be asked is what you need the data for.
> This actually is not bad but just to know who and why they need the data.
>
> I have taken the liberty to request the data.  Until FOI is through, you
> need a bilateral with me early Monday morning at 1am so that I can send
> you to an appropriate officer.  There is no need to haul insults at the
> Government before you even ask in a civil way.  As Dwight Eisenhower said
> "Pessimism never won any battle".  Have an optimist weekend.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>> It is very unfortunate that in this day and age, government agencies still
>> cannot take advantage of ICT to relay some relevant information (And here
>> am
>> talking about statistics of whatever nature)
>>
>> Even if it is a subscription service, it would still be helpful.
>> I have for the past few months been following keenly and trying to gather
>> information about recent road accident statistics and the only statistics
>> available are as of 2002!
>> And this was based on a research done by UON and KU professers
>>
>> Am sure there are government officials from various ministries on this
>> platform, following silently, Can somebody kindly have the hardcopy of
>> those
>> reports/research/statics et al, being put on soft and made available
>> online!
>>
>> It sometimes become very frustrating being thrown from one dept to another
>> when all you wanted was just information.
>>
>> Rgds
>> Henry
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Bohnstedt <
>> andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com> wrote:
>>
>>> At least, good people, the Kenya Police website isn't currently hacked
>>> into
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Have a lovely Friday,
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>> On 1 April 2011 09:38, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 23:02, Henry Okatch <hokatch at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Its Interesting that you mentioned the dead websites.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still no luck with the statistics and the Police traffic dept which
>>>>> ideally should have this info  does not have it on soft.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You want to hassle the MoT for the data, or Traffic Police HQs. In both
>>>> cases, you are likely to encounter some very useless questions and
>>>> time-wasting before you get the data. Better walk to the office you've
>>>> opted
>>>> for. Phone calls will not help.
>>>>
>>>> And just if you did not know - there are not any computers in the
>>>> Police
>>>> offices. The last time I checked, computers were prestigious additions
>>>> gracing the furniture inside senior officers' offices - mostly for
>>>> posing
>>>> with during photo shoots. There is no active use of computers for daily
>>>> work
>>>> within the Police. I could be wrong, but trust me - I was there.
>>>> Everything
>>>> is done on paper and follows a specific channel (with no thinking
>>>> involved).
>>>> Police reforms have a long way to go. Something like Vision 3020! All
>>>> you
>>>> have to do is look at the Police website and take time to read the
>>>> sketchy
>>>> data in order to convince yourself on how far they are from the
>>>> Information
>>>> Age.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>>>> Nairobi,KE
>>>> +254733744121/+254722743223
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>>>> Damn!!
>>>>
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*Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up, It knows it must run faster
than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a lion wakes up,
it knows it must outrun the slowest gazelle or it will starve to death. It
doesn't matter whether you are a gazelle or a lion. When the sun comes up,
you better start running.
- In "The World is Flat" by Thomas L. Friedman*