[kictanet] The big Kwaheri: reflecting on 10 years on the MJ 10yr safari and his-tory - day 5

Fri Oct 15 13:29:32 EAT 2010

*The clip NTV aired focused on MJ's exasperation at impunity in Kenya. *

I also watched this interview and MJ's statement regarding corruption and
the greater ill of impunity that allows grand corruption (and other ills) to
thrive in Kenya, and that Kenya is always on the brink of greatness but will
be at that point unless impunity is dealt with..

Regards,

--
Josiah Mugambi

2010/10/15 S.Murigi Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>

> Will remember MJ mostly for the interview aired by NTV the night before
> last.
>
> The clip NTV aired focused on MJ's exasperation at impunity in Kenya.
>
> In that clip there was no MJ talk about Safaricom successes or profits but
> about how Kenya will remain on the brink of success if we do not deal with
> impunity as a nation.
>
> He said crooks in Kenya are not made to suffer for their corruption and as
> such impunity just grows in Kenya.
>
> In his 10 years in Kenya he has never witnessed anyone prosecuted for grand
> corruption.
> (Maybe he was thinking.. "Mobitelea" )
>
> He spoke of how fraudsters within Safaricom have been caught, taken to
> court for prosecution but walk free without even appearing in court.
>
> The world is watching to see if we change our culture of impunity while we
> wait for the constitution to change Kenya.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> @Gilda,
>>
>> good qtn that reminds me about the software behind MPESA is apparently
>> claimed by both Vodafone (UK) and Kenya.  Ofcourse Vodafone owns the
>> copyrights - but was it created in Kenya, by a Kenyan? If MJ will in due
>> course clear the air on this and the MOBITELEA saga, then we shall all be
>> happier...
>>
>> walu.
>>
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 10/15/10, godera at skyweb.co.ke <godera at skyweb.co.ke>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: godera at skyweb.co.ke <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] The big Kwaheri: reflecting on 10 years on the MJ
>> 10yr safari and his-tory - day 5
>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 10:30 AM
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Well said. May I ask, are there any entrepreneurs out there who developed
>> any
>> applications that Safaricom adapted and what is their input in this
>> discussion?
>> It would be nice to hear from them too......
>>
>> Gilda
>> Quoting Chris Foster <cgfoster at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=cgfoster@gmail.com>
>> >:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > Muriuki invited me to join the list and contribute to this discussion. I
>> am
>> > a PhD researcher from Manchester UK, currently researching the reach of
>> > mobile, focusing on mobile entrepreneurs in Nairobi. So I am very happy
>> to
>> > be able to follow these interesting discussions on a subject close to my
>> > heart.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure I can add anything specific about the Kenyan context, in
>> which
>> > you have far more knowledge than me, but perhaps I can present some
>> insight
>> > on some wider debates in mobile, where similar processes are happening
>> > around the world.
>> >
>> > I'd like to expand on Muriuki's previous point, about those employed in
>> the
>> > mobile industry. In my view what may be most significant about
>> Safaricom, is
>> > that it seems to be one of the first enterprises in Kenya to truly reach
>> the
>> > poorest and successfully provide ICT goods. But in the rush to
>> celebrate, we
>> > may have forgotten to consider the mobile entrepreneurs who have been
>> > crucial to providing this new reach.
>> >
>> > Here's two quotes about these mobile entrepreneurs from recent research:
>> >
>> > >From a study of mobile entrepreneurs in India - “A general store began
>> a
>> > mobile phone re-charge service, moving to selling handsets, accessories
>> and
>> > repair services phasing out the original business.....Similarly, several
>> > mobile recharge start-ups graduated to stocking the entire range of
>> mobile
>> > re-charge options, handsets, accessories and hardware repair.”
>> >
>> > A quote from a Telco employee in Peru - "[Referring to top-up and
>> handset
>> > sellers]..those people, even telephone thieves, are working for us, only
>> > they don’t know it......They are employees of [the company], they are
>> only
>> > lacking the vest; they work for us for free"
>> >
>> > I really like these quotes as they show the two sides of these forgotten
>> > mobile entrepreneurs. They seem to illustrate a fine line between mobile
>> > employment being a positive learning process for the information age,
>> and
>> > vendors who induce spending and pass the profits upward to their bosses.
>> >
>> > Is it fine to praise the effective business model of Safaricom and
>> forget
>> > about these entrepreneurs? How do we see the role of these often
>> marginal
>> > entrepreneurs, is employment the most they can expect? What are there
>> things
>> > that Safaricom has done to help those employed in the mobile industry?
>> >
>> > Best Regards
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > ----
>> > Christopher Foster
>> > PhD Candidate, Centre for Development Informatics (CDI)
>> > University of Manchester, UK
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:41 PM, waudo siganga
>> > <emailsignet at mailcan.com <http://mc/compose?to=emailsignet@mailcan.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Muriuki,
>> > > I think MPESA has helped distribute wealth to the bottom of the
>> pyramid.
>> > > There are thousands of people in the rural remote areas now who are
>> able
>> > to
>> > > receive money from more fortunate relatives etc. simply because the
>> > channel
>> > > to send the money exists and is accessible. Imagine trying to send
>> 300/=
>> > to
>> > > a villager 5 years ago and the bank charges plus transport to the
>> > "nearest"
>> > > town where the bank has a branch, plus bank restricted opening
>> hours,plus
>> > > queues in the bank, plus possible lodging costs, plus other
>> compexities
>> > that
>> > > would have involved!  Economists also say (
>> > >
>> http://blog.icresource.com/2008/03/01/principles-of-economic-circulation/
>> )
>> > that
>> > > wealth is not just having money, but also how FAST that m oney
>> circulates
>> > in
>> > > the economy. One person having 1000/= in a week is not the same as 7
>> > people
>> > > handling that same 1000/= through 7 separate transactions in the same
>> > week.
>> > > In this way I think MPESA has revolutionarised the lives of Kenyans
>> beyond
>> > > doubt, created new wealth, inreased GDP by improving CIRCULATION of
>> money
>> > > and helped to redistribute wealth, especially to the bottom of the
>> > pyramid.
>> > > A person in the village able to receive money in an easier way from
>> more
>> > > fortunate realtives is also able to invest, e.g. in agriculture,
>> > education,
>> > > health, etc. at the grassroots. To mis-quote  a certain obscure
>> philospher
>> > > of yore, MPESA is the mother of all killer applications!
>> > >
>> > > Kind
>> > > Waudo
>> > >  On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:09 +0300, "muriuki mureithi" <
>> > > mureithi at summitstrategies.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke>>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >  Fellow listers
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > This is getting very close from the heart ------ keep them coming ---
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Joe Mucheru put out a very interesting  hypothesis  and most likely  a
>> > fact
>> > >  that ...’ Safaricom ecosystem has created  thousands of millionaires
>> ‘
>> > as
>> > > MJ created a US$1 Billion + company in 10 yrs  .....
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > One thing  one may want to understand from your own experience  is
>> whether
>> > > Safaricom generated new wealth  and then redistributed to create the
>> > > millionaires cited above, or did the system suck resources from bamba
>> 5’s
>> > >  and concentrate to  a few? Were there losers in the process?
>> Were   the
>> > > bottom of the pyramid part of the equation or lost out?  Think of that
>> guy
>> > > who was selling airtime  in the streets some years ago,  did the
>> system
>> > > develop a channel for upward mobility in the value chain?  In other
>> words
>> > > where is the guy who was selling airtime 10 yrs ago in the streets?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If you think so – what should MJ have done to address the situation
>> ......
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > cheers
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Muriuki Mureithi
>> > >
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