<div><i>The clip NTV aired focused on MJ's exasperation at impunity in Kenya. </i></div><div><br></div><div>I also watched this interview and MJ's statement regarding corruption and the greater ill of impunity that allows grand corruption (and other ills) to thrive in Kenya, and that Kenya is always on the brink of greatness but will be at that point unless impunity is dealt with..</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br clear="all"><div dir="ltr">--<br><font color="#990000">Josiah Mugambi </font></div><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/10/15 S.Murigi Muraya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:murigi.muraya@gmail.com">murigi.muraya@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Will remember MJ mostly for the interview aired by NTV the night before
last.<br>
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The clip NTV aired focused on MJ's exasperation at impunity in Kenya. <br>
<br>
In that clip there was no MJ talk about Safaricom successes or profits
but about how Kenya will remain on the brink of success if we do not
deal with impunity as a nation.<br>
<br>
He said crooks in Kenya are not made to suffer for their corruption and
as such impunity just grows in Kenya.<br>
<br>
In his 10 years in Kenya he has never witnessed anyone prosecuted for
grand corruption.<br>
(Maybe he was thinking.. "Mobitelea" )<br>
<br>
He spoke of how fraudsters within Safaricom have been caught, taken to
court for prosecution but walk free without even appearing in court. <br>
<br>The world is watching to see if we change our culture of impunity while we wait for the constitution to change Kenya.<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Walubengo J <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit" valign="top">@Gilda,<br><br>good qtn that reminds me about the software behind MPESA is apparently claimed by both Vodafone (UK) and Kenya. Ofcourse Vodafone owns the copyrights - but was it created in Kenya, by a Kenyan? If MJ will in due course clear the air on this and the MOBITELEA saga, then we shall all be happier...<br>
<br>walu.<br> <br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 10/15/10, <a href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke" target="_blank">godera@skyweb.co.ke</a> <i><<a href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke" target="_blank">godera@skyweb.co.ke</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px"><br>From: <a href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke" target="_blank">godera@skyweb.co.ke</a> <<a href="mailto:godera@skyweb.co.ke" target="_blank">godera@skyweb.co.ke</a>><div>
<br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] The big Kwaheri: reflecting on 10 years on the MJ 10yr safari and his-tory - day 5<br></div>To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" target="_blank">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 10:30 AM<br><br><div><div><div></div><div><br>Chris,<br><br>Well said. May I ask, are there any entrepreneurs out there who developed any<br>applications that Safaricom adapted and what is their input in this discussion?<br>
It would be nice to hear from them too......<br><br>Gilda<br>Quoting Chris Foster <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=cgfoster@gmail.com" target="_blank">cgfoster@gmail.com</a>>:<br><br>> Dear all,<br>> <br>> Muriuki invited me to join the list and contribute to this discussion. I am<br>
> a PhD researcher from Manchester UK, currently researching the reach of<br>> mobile, focusing on mobile entrepreneurs in Nairobi. So I am very happy to<br>> be able to follow these interesting discussions on a subject close to my<br>
> heart.<br>> <br>> I'm not sure I can add anything specific about the Kenyan context, in which<br>> you have far more knowledge than me, but perhaps I can present some insight<br>> on some wider
debates in mobile, where similar processes are happening<br>> around the world.<br>> <br>> I'd like to expand on Muriuki's previous point, about those employed in the<br>> mobile industry. In my view what may be most significant about Safaricom, is<br>
> that it seems to be one of the first enterprises in Kenya to truly reach the<br>> poorest and successfully provide ICT goods. But in the rush to celebrate, we<br>> may have forgotten to consider the mobile entrepreneurs who have been<br>
> crucial to providing this new reach.<br>> <br>> Here's two quotes about these mobile entrepreneurs from recent research:<br>> <br>> >From a study of mobile entrepreneurs in India - “A general store began a<br>
> mobile phone re-charge service, moving to selling handsets, accessories and<br>> repair services phasing out the original business.....Similarly, several<br>> mobile recharge start-ups graduated to stocking the
entire range of mobile<br>> re-charge options, handsets, accessories and hardware repair.”<br>> <br>> A quote from a Telco employee in Peru - "[Referring to top-up and handset<br>> sellers]..those people, even telephone thieves, are working for us, only<br>
> they don’t know it......They are employees of [the company], they are only<br>> lacking the vest; they work for us for free"<br>> <br>> I really like these quotes as they show the two sides of these forgotten<br>
> mobile entrepreneurs. They seem to illustrate a fine line between mobile<br>> employment being a positive learning process for the information age, and<br>> vendors who induce spending and pass the profits upward to their bosses.<br>
> <br>> Is it fine to praise the effective business model of Safaricom and forget<br>> about these entrepreneurs? How do we see the role of these often marginal<br>> entrepreneurs, is employment the most they can
expect? What are there things<br>> that Safaricom has done to help those employed in the mobile industry?<br>> <br>> Best Regards<br>> Chris<br>> <br>> ----<br>> Christopher Foster<br>> PhD Candidate, Centre for Development Informatics (CDI)<br>
> University of Manchester, UK<br>> <br>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:41 PM, waudo siganga<br>> <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=emailsignet@mailcan.com" target="_blank">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> <br>> > Muriuki,<br>> > I think MPESA has helped distribute wealth to the bottom of the pyramid.<br>> > There are thousands of people in the rural remote areas now who are able<br>> to<br>> > receive money from more fortunate relatives etc. simply because the<br>
> channel<br>> > to send the money exists and is accessible. Imagine trying to send 300/=<br>> to<br>> > a villager 5 years ago and the bank
charges plus transport to the<br>> "nearest"<br>> > town where the bank has a branch, plus bank restricted opening hours,plus<br>> > queues in the bank, plus possible lodging costs, plus other compexities<br>
> that<br>> > would have involved! Economists also say (<br>> > <a href="http://blog.icresource.com/2008/03/01/principles-of-economic-circulation/" target="_blank">http://blog.icresource.com/2008/03/01/principles-of-economic-circulation/</a>)<br>
> that<br>> > wealth is not just having money, but also how FAST that m oney circulates<br>> in<br>> > the economy. One person having 1000/= in a week is not the same as 7<br>> people<br>> > handling that same 1000/= through 7 separate transactions in the same<br>
> week.<br>> > In this way I think MPESA has revolutionarised the lives of Kenyans beyond<br>> > doubt, created new wealth, inreased GDP by improving CIRCULATION of
money<br>> > and helped to redistribute wealth, especially to the bottom of the<br>> pyramid.<br>> > A person in the village able to receive money in an easier way from more<br>> > fortunate realtives is also able to invest, e.g. in agriculture,<br>
> education,<br>> > health, etc. at the grassroots. To mis-quote a certain obscure philospher<br>> > of yore, MPESA is the mother of all killer applications!<br>> ><br>> > Kind<br>> > Waudo<br>
> > On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:09 +0300, "muriuki mureithi" <<br>> > <a href="http://mc/compose?to=mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke" target="_blank">mureithi@summitstrategies.co.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Fellow listers<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > This is getting very close from the heart ------ keep them coming ---<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Joe
Mucheru put out a very interesting hypothesis and most likely a<br>> fact<br>> > that ...’ Safaricom ecosystem has created thousands of millionaires ‘ <br>> as<br>> > MJ created a US$1 Billion + company in 10 yrs .....<br>
> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > One thing one may want to understand from your own experience is whether<br>> > Safaricom generated new wealth and then redistributed to create the<br>> > millionaires cited above, or did the system suck resources from bamba 5’s<br>
> > and concentrate to a few? Were there losers in the process? Were the<br>> > bottom of the pyramid part of the equation or lost out? Think of that guy<br>> > who was selling airtime in the streets some years ago, did the system<br>
> > develop a channel for upward mobility in the value
chain? In other words<br>> > where is the guy who was selling airtime 10 yrs ago in the streets?<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > If you think so – what should MJ have done to address the situation ......<br>
> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > cheers<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Muriuki Mureithi<br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>
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