[kictanet] Projects - National Implementation - ICT

Thu Mar 25 10:17:00 EAT 2010

Dear Ps,

As you can, see I have changed the subject on this thread, so that the
discussion is not only on a particular project,at the same time not to
appear to send wrong connotations. We do not intend to cast aspersions on
any personality.

Frankly, what we concerned with here and would kindly request to be
addressed, is the tendency by different govt. depts to assume "a go alone"
approach on matters that involve a lot of stakeholders in different sectors
nationally,only for such non consultative projects to hit several "dead
ends" be declared non-starters with huge cost ramifications, wastage and
credibility - At best they become "white elephants". Enough of these dot our
national landscape, and it's just so saddening that we never seem to learn.

There are very valid reasons for engaging, to consult widely. Sometimes, it
is a good way to get a "Reality check" before jumping.

As far as ICT is concerned, tools, brain resources to tap from and good will
are widely available. We can ensure we make effort to have things done
right.

Possibly if all could adopt an "open door" policy, and engage just as you
yourself have made effort to, then we would make a lot of progress.

Just a thought.

Regards,
Harry

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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus

KIE is doing a great job on education content development.  We have several
joint initiatives.  Next week March 29 -31 we have a major e-learning
conference to showcase local digital content.  You are all welcome.

We shall make great progress if we begin by asking rather than complaining.
Development is largely thinking positive and taking risk in good faith.

Regards

Ndemo.
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From: "Harry Delano" <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:17:22
To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus

If I would look at it from another angle, I suppose also and I will keep on
insisting - Let us please ensure for grand projects such as this that will
impact on the nation, we develop a Multistakeholder approach, consult widely
and sell the idea and also listen to other ideas out there,then settle on
the best - in terms of feasibility,impact and cost effectiveness.

I think while it is good to initiate good projects that stand to benefit the
nation, it will be prudent also to develop a model that will ensure all
angles of such projects are covered right through from the point of
incubation to implementation. We are accustomed now to "Surprise projects"
when least expected, which fade off as soon as they are mooted.

While we on this topic, I posted earlier this morning an initiative by the
Ministry of Education to digitalize the Academic curriculum in schools. For
instance in this case, is the ministry of ICT Involved? What about other
stakeholder...? What would this portend - especially for Educational
Material /curriculum Publishers, who may lose a market share in the
education sector?
How feasible is it? What is
the impact of the huge digital divide at present on such an initiative? What
about broadband? Shouldn't we address this first..?

Certainly a lot of questions..I think it would be advisable for the govt.
organs to engage far & wide..

Harry

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Behalf Of crystal at voicesofafrica.org
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus

That is precisely my arguement for using those funds for training centers
and Rural Internet Kiosks. These are designed to teach people computer and
Internet skills. The people who are trained can then working in the schools,
clinics, and other areas where ICTs can be used for development. Education
must be viewed holistically to encompass the whole society not simply school
children who can occassionally board the bus. In addition these projects are
financially self sustaining after implementation and prove much needed
employment. 

Let us consider the long term ramifications of our investments and ensure
that we get the maximum impact. It is easier said than done, but if we do
not begin the journey it will never be done.

Blessings,

Crystal
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From: bitange at jambo.co.ke
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:15:50
To: <crystal at voicesofafrica.org>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ongeri Hurray on ICT Bus

Robert,
Things are not as easy as you write here.  Today in Kenya you cannot try to
do anything without taking into account of regional interests.  I hope you
are watching the constitutional process and the regional emotions. 
Imagine if we were to start with schools in the ASAL region promising to
cover the entire country in the next five years.  Consider that Ministry of
Education does not have adequate number of teachers as we speak yet you will
need at least one computer teacher in the 20,000 primary schools and 9,000
secondary schools.

If we need to close the digital divide, we all must change.  We must for
example begin volunteering to teach both the students and the unemployed
youth computers.  By so doing, you will one day live to say what you did for
your country.  Like it is said "it is easier said than done".

Regards

Ndemo.

> Hi,
>
> It seems that some sanity is coming into the education realm with the Hon.
> Minister Dr. Ongeri canceling the proposed ICT Bus project, I believe 
> once bitten twice shy.
>
> The project was to cost Kes. 1.2  B with each bus costing Kes. 7 
> Million which equates to 171 buses that is roughly 24 buses per 
> province this was surely another scan in the making.  I remember the 
> MP of
Kisumu Hon.
> Shabbir raising the issue of the buses and getting dismissed as a self 
> seeking technology Neanderthal, lets hope this is the beginning of 
> sanity in the ICT arena, but if I was you I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
> I suspect that the concept of mobile computer labs was a thinking from 
> the mobile library project but someone forgot that with a library the 
> books are left behind.
>
> With Kes 7 million we could do much more than just a single bus with 
> 20 computer that requires a driver, insurance, service, generators, 
> and many other thinks.
>
> Here is my suggestion on how the 7 million could be better utilised to 
> meet the objectives.
>
> - 20% to be used for physical facilities (stone & mortar) - Kes. 1.4 M
> - This can build 150 sq m of classroom space inclusive of electrical 
> wiring & burger proofed windows. An average computer lab is 15 sq m 
> which means we can build 10 labs and each can accommodate 20 
> screens/pcs.  We could build even more labs if the Ministry if Housing 
> provided the interlocking soil block making machines
>
> - 30% to be used for provision of power to the lab - Kes. 2.1 million 
> we which we need to provide sufficient power.  The computers will need 
> to be low power consumers therefore we use TFT screens and cpu sharing 
> devices that allow 1 computer to be used simultaneously by 4 or more
students.
> With this our power requirement for each lab would be below 1,000 VA 
> which can easily be supplied by a few solar panels and a battery bank.
>
> - 20% for the actual hardware - Kes. 1.4 M - DC powered computers, 
> printers and GSM modem with a good proxy server to provide local caching.
> This will also include structured cabling which will be done by the 
> graduats of the kazi kwa Vijani initiative where they will have been 
> offered technical training.
>
> -  20% teacher training - Kes. 1.4 M, even if we have them certified 
> in ICDL we shall be able to train 66 teachers which would provide 
> enough computer teachers.
>
> - 10% well I leave you to decide what to do with that, note that there 
> are no recurrent costs such as drivers, diesel, electricity costs (God 
> does not charge for solar, yet).
>
> The 10 labs can be used by the schools during the day and could be 
> made available to the community in the evenings and as digital 
> villages over the weekends where content can be generated, yes local 
> content (ask me for details).
>
> Now that I have spend the equivalent of 1 bus to create 10 centers why 
> won't we actually do this, because I did not factor in the feasibility 
> study costs, 30%, seminars and workshops 50%, sitting allowances 20% 
> and well nothing else to include as the preliminary costs have already 
> consumed the 7 million.
>
> Ongeri hurray but lets hope the money will not go to drinking water 
> and writing materials for a bonding session.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>  Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
>
>
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