[kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2 of 8 Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF Mailing List Discussions

[Barrack Otieno]

Well put Solomon, if i got Sams post correctly, some research in underway, i
hope he doesnt mind sharing some snipets on this list, there seems to be
silent consensus that we are on the right track any differing views :-)

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>wrote:

> And there is the element of  demand vs supply. While in essence, there
> was no task force et al that was pre-commissioned to look into the
> need of essentiality of the fibre cables, (I stand to be corrected on
> this), the govt of Kenya thought it wise to have the cables landed,
> anyway.
> The consumers, on their part, had a number of views on the effects
> (both -ve and +ve) of the cables, realistically, changing their
> thoughts at the end of having them landing.
>
> Nevertheless, we can't throw the fibre cables out of the window
> because of this 'blunder'. A lot of opportunities now exist based on
> the factual results being felt.
> It is imperative to ask ourselves, just as it has been pointed out,
> why had Zain, to be known as Airtel, to have the African headquarters
> in Nairobi, yet there are other 14 nations in Africa where Zain
> International operates? This remember, despite the political hue and
> cue!
>
> Maybe we shouldn't be impatient, and after some years, we can point
> fingers out.
> I'm still believing that there was/is a need to have a time-line for
> assessing the impact of these infrastructure.
>
> On 07/07/2010, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thank you Charles and Sam for your observation and positive outlook. I
> agree
> > with Sam, having a highway without vehicles to ply on is a mirage
> > nonetheless Charles is right in pointing out the very fact with the few
> > vehicles on the highway the future looks bright. That nothwithstanding
> and
> > considering the fact that 70 percent of our economy is composed of the
> > informal sector we need a sustained campaign that will ensure this
> segment
> > is brought onto the Super highway.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Sam Aguyo <saguyo at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Listeners,
> >>
> >> I think we need to be more inward looking, the golden murmur should have
> >> been Seacom is down so our BPOs are suffering huge losses.  Indeed we
> have
> >> the superhighway but apparently not vehicles to run on it.   When the
> Anti
> >> Terrorist Police Unit first released its rapid communication channels i
> >> had
> >> worries since it was a yahoo.com address, am glad they quickly changed
> and
> >> now it is go.ke, a good development.  We now have 3 cables if am not
> >> mistaken but if there are no Buses not even matatus to ply on them, then
> >> they are a mirage.
> >>
> >> Considerable impact will be felt when we stop, think, ponder and seize
> the
> >> opportunity that comes with the infrastructure than wait to complain
> that
> >> the infrastructure itself is not in itself giving business opportunity.
> >>
> >> Well Walu, am already doing research on something related.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sam Aguyo
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
> >> *To:* saguyo at yahoo.com
> >>
> >> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >> *Sent:* Tue, July 6, 2010 5:15:39 PM
> >>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2
> of
> >> 8 Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF
> >> Mailing List Discussions
> >>
> >> One of the views in regards to the undersea cables, is realistically
> >> speaking, the current situation. As Walu pointed out, all users of
> >> .com have been affectedby the effects of Seacom's state of affairs.
> >>
> >> This is perhaps one of the many reasons as to why the Undersea Cables
> >> were a 'mess' from the word go. It beats logic why the breakdown or
> >> whatever has not been restored to its full capacity, as we speak.
> >> Could there be sabotage?
> >>
> >> Back to your query: The socio-economioc impact of the cables.
> >> 1. They are anticipated to open more job opportunities (BPO, E-stuff)
> >> 2. They would generally improve the economic and security of countries
> >> thus enhancing interdepence and social closeness.
> >> 3. The most notable impact, in my view, was the momentus speed that
> >> would usher quick businesses thus economic growth.
> >>
> >> The youth would have benefitted greatly considering that they
> >> constitute to the majority of workforce. In such a view, growth in
> >> countries where the cables pass would be great, maybe +10% p.a.
> >> The value addition, as of now, remains to be seen!
> >>
> >> On 06/07/2010, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > Barrack,
> >> >
> >> > internet traffic is truly messed up down here. Considering that our
> >> domestic
> >> > networks+local content are relatively non-existent we are heavy
> >> > consumers
> >> > international traffic - even my email, yours and many others are .com
> >> > and
> >> so
> >> > they will try to head out of the country through constrained links
> given
> >> > that Seacom has gone down with probably 50%? of our international
> >> > capacity...
> >> >
> >> > it only emphasis the sorry state of affairs that despite the pomp
> >> > surrounding the advent of the undersea cable, there is yet to be that
> >> > socio-economic revolution that was expected. Maybe there is but I have
> >> not
> >> > yet heard about BPO jobs flooding our market, eLearning taking off,
> >> > eCommerce and the rest of the goodies happening because we now have
> the
> >> > superhighway down at the coast...indeed someone can do a good PhD
> thesis
> >> on
> >> > why this is so and inform us exactly when the IT miracle will happen
> >> > (the
> >> > Indian style).
> >> >
> >> > walu.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2
> of
> >> 8
> >> > Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF
> >> Mailing
> >> > List Discussions
> >> > To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> >> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >> > Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 2:42 PM
> >> >
> >> > Listers , there is very loud silence with regard to Infrastructure
> >> > issues
> >> i
> >> > suppose we have adopted a wait and see approach, i can hear murmus
> >> > across
> >> > various lists within the country as well as regionally that seacom is
> >> down
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.seacomblog.com/team-seacom/2010/07/seacom-service-down-seacom-actively-seeking-solutions
> >> ,
> >> > probably we are getting used to this scenario, however is this right?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Barrack Otieno <
> otieno.barrack at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dear Listers,
> >> >
> >> > Apologies for starting the thread late and thanks
> >> > to all those who responded actively on the first day, the thread is
> >> > still open. Today we look at Infrastructure issues, a quick glance
> >> > through last years report brings to mind the Pomp that greeted the
> >> > TEAMS and SEACOM initiative, one year down the line, it would only be
> >> > good to review the milestones we have made this far, going through an
> >> > earlier discussion on this list, i noted an interesting article posted
> >> > by listers that mentioned the fact that the undersea cable has led to
> a
> >> > boom in Spam coming from the this region, the study was conducted by
> >> > Symantec, i know this is just a tip of the ICEBERG and would like to
> >> > look at the issue from a Social perspective as well as an economic
> >> > perspective, are there real (tangible benefits) that the cables have
> >> > brought or is it euphoria, do we have indicators that show how the
> >> > country has benefited?, what do the various consituencies have to say?
> >> > Consumer advocates, Youth Representatives, the Private Sector?..the
> >> > discussion is open
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Barrack O. Otieno
> >> > +41767892272
> >> > Skype: barrack.otieno
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> > +41767892272
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> >> >
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