Well put Solomon, if i got Sams post correctly, some research in underway, i hope he doesnt mind sharing some snipets on this list, there seems to be silent consensus that we are on the right track any differing views :-)<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
And there is the element of demand vs supply. While in essence, there<br>
was no task force et al that was pre-commissioned to look into the<br>
need of essentiality of the fibre cables, (I stand to be corrected on<br>
this), the govt of Kenya thought it wise to have the cables landed,<br>
anyway.<br>
The consumers, on their part, had a number of views on the effects<br>
(both -ve and +ve) of the cables, realistically, changing their<br>
thoughts at the end of having them landing.<br>
<br>
Nevertheless, we can't throw the fibre cables out of the window<br>
because of this 'blunder'. A lot of opportunities now exist based on<br>
the factual results being felt.<br>
It is imperative to ask ourselves, just as it has been pointed out,<br>
why had Zain, to be known as Airtel, to have the African headquarters<br>
in Nairobi, yet there are other 14 nations in Africa where Zain<br>
International operates? This remember, despite the political hue and<br>
cue!<br>
<br>
Maybe we shouldn't be impatient, and after some years, we can point<br>
fingers out.<br>
I'm still believing that there was/is a need to have a time-line for<br>
assessing the impact of these infrastructure.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
On 07/07/2010, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Thank you Charles and Sam for your observation and positive outlook. I agree<br>
> with Sam, having a highway without vehicles to ply on is a mirage<br>
> nonetheless Charles is right in pointing out the very fact with the few<br>
> vehicles on the highway the future looks bright. That nothwithstanding and<br>
> considering the fact that 70 percent of our economy is composed of the<br>
> informal sector we need a sustained campaign that will ensure this segment<br>
> is brought onto the Super highway.<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Sam Aguyo <<a href="mailto:saguyo@yahoo.com">saguyo@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Dear Listeners,<br>
>><br>
>> I think we need to be more inward looking, the golden murmur should have<br>
>> been Seacom is down so our BPOs are suffering huge losses. Indeed we have<br>
>> the superhighway but apparently not vehicles to run on it. When the Anti<br>
>> Terrorist Police Unit first released its rapid communication channels i<br>
>> had<br>
>> worries since it was a <a href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">yahoo.com</a> address, am glad they quickly changed and<br>
>> now it is <a href="http://go.ke" target="_blank">go.ke</a>, a good development. We now have 3 cables if am not<br>
>> mistaken but if there are no Buses not even matatus to ply on them, then<br>
>> they are a mirage.<br>
>><br>
>> Considerable impact will be felt when we stop, think, ponder and seize the<br>
>> opportunity that comes with the infrastructure than wait to complain that<br>
>> the infrastructure itself is not in itself giving business opportunity.<br>
>><br>
>> Well Walu, am already doing research on something related.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sam Aguyo<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------<br>
>> *From:* Solomon Mburu Kamau <<a href="mailto:solo.mburu@gmail.com">solo.mburu@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> *To:* <a href="mailto:saguyo@yahoo.com">saguyo@yahoo.com</a><br>
>><br>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>> *Sent:* Tue, July 6, 2010 5:15:39 PM<br>
>><br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2 of<br>
>> 8 Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF<br>
>> Mailing List Discussions<br>
>><br>
>> One of the views in regards to the undersea cables, is realistically<br>
>> speaking, the current situation. As Walu pointed out, all users of<br>
>> .com have been affectedby the effects of Seacom's state of affairs.<br>
>><br>
>> This is perhaps one of the many reasons as to why the Undersea Cables<br>
>> were a 'mess' from the word go. It beats logic why the breakdown or<br>
>> whatever has not been restored to its full capacity, as we speak.<br>
>> Could there be sabotage?<br>
>><br>
>> Back to your query: The socio-economioc impact of the cables.<br>
>> 1. They are anticipated to open more job opportunities (BPO, E-stuff)<br>
>> 2. They would generally improve the economic and security of countries<br>
>> thus enhancing interdepence and social closeness.<br>
>> 3. The most notable impact, in my view, was the momentus speed that<br>
>> would usher quick businesses thus economic growth.<br>
>><br>
>> The youth would have benefitted greatly considering that they<br>
>> constitute to the majority of workforce. In such a view, growth in<br>
>> countries where the cables pass would be great, maybe +10% p.a.<br>
>> The value addition, as of now, remains to be seen!<br>
>><br>
>> On 06/07/2010, Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Barrack,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > internet traffic is truly messed up down here. Considering that our<br>
>> domestic<br>
>> > networks+local content are relatively non-existent we are heavy<br>
>> > consumers<br>
>> > international traffic - even my email, yours and many others are .com<br>
>> > and<br>
>> so<br>
>> > they will try to head out of the country through constrained links given<br>
>> > that Seacom has gone down with probably 50%? of our international<br>
>> > capacity...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > it only emphasis the sorry state of affairs that despite the pomp<br>
>> > surrounding the advent of the undersea cable, there is yet to be that<br>
>> > socio-economic revolution that was expected. Maybe there is but I have<br>
>> not<br>
>> > yet heard about BPO jobs flooding our market, eLearning taking off,<br>
>> > eCommerce and the rest of the goodies happening because we now have the<br>
>> > superhighway down at the coast...indeed someone can do a good PhD thesis<br>
>> on<br>
>> > why this is so and inform us exactly when the IT miracle will happen<br>
>> > (the<br>
>> > Indian style).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > walu.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2 of<br>
>> 8<br>
>> > Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF<br>
>> Mailing<br>
>> > List Discussions<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
>> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
>> > Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 2:42 PM<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Listers , there is very loud silence with regard to Infrastructure<br>
>> > issues<br>
>> i<br>
>> > suppose we have adopted a wait and see approach, i can hear murmus<br>
>> > across<br>
>> > various lists within the country as well as regionally that seacom is<br>
>> down<br>
>> ><br>
>> <a href="http://www.seacomblog.com/team-seacom/2010/07/seacom-service-down-seacom-actively-seeking-solutions" target="_blank">http://www.seacomblog.com/team-seacom/2010/07/seacom-service-down-seacom-actively-seeking-solutions</a><br>
>> ,<br>
>> > probably we are getting used to this scenario, however is this right?<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Barrack Otieno <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Dear Listers,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Apologies for starting the thread late and thanks<br>
>> > to all those who responded actively on the first day, the thread is<br>
>> > still open. Today we look at Infrastructure issues, a quick glance<br>
>> > through last years report brings to mind the Pomp that greeted the<br>
>> > TEAMS and SEACOM initiative, one year down the line, it would only be<br>
>> > good to review the milestones we have made this far, going through an<br>
>> > earlier discussion on this list, i noted an interesting article posted<br>
>> > by listers that mentioned the fact that the undersea cable has led to a<br>
>> > boom in Spam coming from the this region, the study was conducted by<br>
>> > Symantec, i know this is just a tip of the ICEBERG and would like to<br>
>> > look at the issue from a Social perspective as well as an economic<br>
>> > perspective, are there real (tangible benefits) that the cables have<br>
>> > brought or is it euphoria, do we have indicators that show how the<br>
>> > country has benefited?, what do the various consituencies have to say?<br>
>> > Consumer advocates, Youth Representatives, the Private Sector?..the<br>
>> > discussion is open<br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
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>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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