[kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2 of 8 Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF Mailing List Discussions

Tue Jul 6 17:25:12 EAT 2010

Thanks Walu and Solomon for bringing to bare the facts as they are, i
suppose this makes a case for the local exchange points, we have had
interesting discourse on exchange points both at a local and regional level
on this list for the better part of this and probably old Hands like Mblayo,
Mich and probably Fiona might want to give us some insight into this area,
on another note i wonder whether the results of the census at least in so
far as ICTs are concerned could be made available on the governmnet portal
so that we may not what priorities Kenyans have, it appears that it is the
Telcos that are taking advantage of the infrastructure that is in place, on
another note, is there a possibilitiy that cloud computing might render all
this Infrastructure initiatives obsolete, might we be caught napping?

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>wrote:

> One of the views in regards to the undersea cables, is realistically
> speaking, the current situation. As Walu pointed out, all users of
> .com have been affectedby the effects of Seacom's state of affairs.
>
> This is perhaps one of the many reasons as to why the Undersea Cables
> were a 'mess' from the word go. It beats logic why the breakdown or
> whatever has not been restored to its full capacity, as we speak.
> Could there be sabotage?
>
> Back to your query: The socio-economioc impact of the cables.
> 1. They are anticipated to open more job opportunities (BPO, E-stuff)
> 2. They would generally improve the economic and security of countries
> thus enhancing interdepence and social closeness.
> 3. The most notable impact, in my view, was the momentus speed that
> would usher quick businesses thus economic growth.
>
> The youth would have benefitted greatly considering that they
> constitute to the majority of workforce. In such a view, growth in
> countries where the cables pass would be great, maybe +10% p.a.
> The value addition, as of now, remains to be seen!
>
> On 06/07/2010, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Barrack,
> >
> > internet traffic is truly messed up down here. Considering that our
> domestic
> > networks+local content are relatively non-existent we are heavy consumers
> > international traffic - even my email, yours and many others are .com and
> so
> > they will try to head out of the country through constrained links given
> > that Seacom has gone down with probably 50%? of our international
> > capacity...
> >
> > it only emphasis the sorry state of affairs that despite the pomp
> > surrounding the advent of the undersea cable, there is yet to be that
> > socio-economic revolution that was expected. Maybe there is but I have
> not
> > yet heard about BPO jobs flooding our market, eLearning taking off,
> > eCommerce and the rest of the goodies happening because we now have the
> > superhighway down at the coast...indeed someone can do a good PhD thesis
> on
> > why this is so and inform us exactly when the IT miracle will happen (the
> > Indian style).
> >
> > walu.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010 Mailing List Discussions Day 2 of
> 8
> > Theme : Infrastructure Issues - Impact of the Fibre Optic Cable IGF
> Mailing
> > List Discussions
> > To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 2:42 PM
> >
> > Listers , there is very loud silence with regard to Infrastructure issues
> i
> > suppose we have adopted a wait and see approach, i can hear murmus across
> > various lists within the country as well as regionally that seacom is
> down
> >
> http://www.seacomblog.com/team-seacom/2010/07/seacom-service-down-seacom-actively-seeking-solutions
> ,
> > probably we are getting used to this scenario, however is this right?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Listers,
> >
> > Apologies for starting the thread late and thanks
> > to all those who responded actively on the first day, the thread is
> > still open. Today we look at Infrastructure issues, a quick glance
> > through last years report brings to mind the Pomp that greeted the
> > TEAMS and SEACOM initiative, one year down the line, it would only be
> > good to review the milestones we have made this far, going through an
> > earlier discussion on this list, i noted an interesting article posted
> > by listers that mentioned the fact that the undersea cable has led to a
> > boom in Spam coming from the this region, the study was conducted by
> > Symantec, i know this is just a tip of the ICEBERG and would like to
> > look at the issue from a Social perspective as well as an economic
> > perspective, are there real (tangible benefits) that the cables have
> > brought or is it euphoria, do we have indicators that show how the
> > country has benefited?, what do the various consituencies have to say?
> > Consumer advocates, Youth Representatives, the Private Sector?..the
> > discussion is open
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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