[kictanet] KNEC giving candidates, parents a raw deal
wesley kirinya
kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 4 09:35:43 EAT 2010
The solutions exists. I briefly listened to a panel on KTN/NTV the morning the results were being released and they seemed to have the solutions. The panel was composed of education experts and people who have researched (and written papers) in the problems plaguing our educational system.
The panel said the issue is implementation. If we start going into this implementation issue we will open a can of worms. We would have to start another mail list for education issues!
--- On Sun, 1/3/10, DAI <svarrer at digitalageinstitute.com> wrote:
From: DAI <svarrer at digitalageinstitute.com>
Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [kictanet] KNEC giving candidates, parents a raw deal
To: bitange at jambo.co.ke, "wesley kirinya" <kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Skunk Works" <skunkworks at my.co.ke>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers at bdix.net>
Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 3:04 PM
Dear Dr. Ndemo, Wesley, Skunk Works and
all,
We will take up this topic in our January issue 2010 of Digital Age Journal.
Our theme is Career, and since the
career for almost 100% of humans starts in primary school, I would appreciate if
you and others could maybe start analyzing the problem - just right here - then
we could maybe have a meeting discussing what we shall do.
I am so much in agreement with the statement
that citizens complain too much. We as citizens and business owners in Kenya
shall promote, strengthen, propose solutions, and put our beard in the drawer
together with our own proposals !! I mean - we shall propose solutions, but we
shall then also back up our own solutions with action.
Churchill said this very clearly:
Ask not what the
country can do for you.
Ask what you can
do for your country...
We shall promote, support, backup our
governments positive efforts, instead of electing the wrong politicians and then
complain when it goes all wrong.
I have a profound attitude in life that if
you are dissatisfied with something, then of course you should mention it, but
never without taking responsibility for implementing a solution. There is always
a way !! If you for some reason end up working with someone who cannot see
further than to their own pocket - then just drop working with them... There
will always be someone you can work with, who see the light - or whom even are
the candle-holders themselves.
Look at it from this side here: Yes, there
is corruption in Kenya. But darn. There is corruption everywhere in the world. I
am from Denmark, one of the so called least corrupt nations. Let me tell you -
there is corruption there too !! It has just been hidden much better - thats
all. In stead of dwelling on that maybe 20% of your tax revenue goes to
corruption - then dwell on that 80% then goes to the right things !!!!!
I propose that you send me an e-mail with
your name and mobile. Send it to: primaryIT at digitalageinstitute.com
and sign up for a meeting where we are going to discuss and take the Primary
School Education - focused on IT - a step further - and take up that debate. If
the contributions are serious, we will print a multi page article about this in
our January issue !! I would expect to call the meeting to order on January
18th, 2010 on our location. Write about what you want to contribute with on the
meeting.
Kind regards
Digital Age Institute
Ltd.
David Svarrer
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From:
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To: wesley kirinya
Cc: Skunk Works ; KICTAnet ICT Policy
Discussions ; ke-users
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:46
PM
Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re:
[kictanet] KNEC giving candidates, parents a raw deal
Dear Wesley,
No one should fail an exam because we have
nowhere to take them if they
passed. Already we have B grade students
who are not getting into
Universiry.
Every year we get similar
concerns but no one has ever asked if indeed we
need KCPE exams. To
date I do not know the objective of this exam. If
our promlem just
like everybody else is literacy, then we only need the
KCSE exams.
The assumption here is that by the time someone sits for
KCSE, they would
be literate and mature enough to consider options. At
KCPE level, I
am afraid we keep on increasing our illiteracy levels the
moment 250,000
fail to proceed further.
In my view we all have failed to analyse this
problem objectively. Media
keeps on reporting but not analysing the
problems. Citizens continue to
complain and not making proposals to
the Government. The KNUT, parents,
politicians have subjected the
Ministry into crisis mode instead of
reforming the sector. KNUT knows
that at least one third of teacheers in
Primary Public Schools cannot pass
or did not pass KCPE. Then we ask why
Private Schools perform
better?
Ndemo.
> I'm concerned about the
hundreds of thousands of students that will miss
> high school. Last
year 250,000 missed it. Over a five year period, this
> adds up to more
than a million, in a country whose population is about 40
>
million!
>
> Out of those who go to high school, only a handful
end up in university.
> Someone should do a sturdy on the loss to our
economy. The government
> spends lots on money to educate 250,000 people
annually who will not get
> to high school. With our current systems,
most of these 250,000 will not
> get descent employment/stable sources
of income. Most of them come from
> rural areas, which are the areas
that need serious development and skilled
> man-power to drive the
development. If I opened a branch of my company in
> some rural area of
Kenya, who will I employ? Even if I employ some people,
> they would be
threatened by the Mungiki-types (children who join gangs in
> order to
extort money)
>
> We need every child in Kenya, willing to go to
school, to be able to
> archieve at least Diploma level. Without that,
we should forget vision
> 2030 and competing with India and other Asian
countries! The Chinese will
> continue building our roads, as Kenyans
sweep them with brooms, not even
> specialized machines!
>
>
I would like to bring in a different perspective as to the low
>
performance, which someone mentioned as seriously wrong. What would
happen
> if most students passed their exams, especially now with record
numbers
> enrolling in schools? Where will they go? You would have
students with B
> grades missing high school. That would be a great
embrassment to
> goverment.
>
> If money is available to buy
fleets of new cars (which dont really add to
> our GDP), surely there
should be money for better quality of education for
> our children
(which definately adds to our GDP).
>
> This is a national
disaster.
>
> O~(
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/30/09,
Akich Kwach <kwach at archway-productions.com>
wrote:
>
> From: Akich Kwach <kwach at archway-productions.com>
>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] KNEC giving candidates, parents a raw deal
> To:
kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com
> Cc:
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:39 AM
>
> Gentlemen,
>
Thanks for sharing your concerns. I would agree with MM and Zachary
>
because KNEC ought to have known every candidate and parents would be
>
interested in getting their results at the earliest hour and should
have
> tested the system's capacity ahead of time. It is sad upto this
hour, I
> spent on SMS three times and no reply yet. If such trends
continue, the
> ICT investments might just be a wate of public funds and
citizens might
> lose faith in the so called e-Govt. I would humbly
request the PS, Dr
> Bitange and the ICT Board to intervene and find out
what transpired at the
> KNEC system.
>
> For the parents
who had 2009 candidates, I am concerned with the general
> national
perfomance taking into account that subjects such as SST where
>
candidates usually score high marks recorded poor performance,
something
> is not right somewhere.
>
> WISHING YOU A HAPPY
2010
>
> Akich Kwach
>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:43 PM
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>
>
>> Thanks
barrack
>> For the candidate and their family they interacted with
the ict system
>> and the interface was the sms and the web. We
should not hide behind
>> huge traffic because the phenomena and the
time is known and the
>> implications.
>> Another terrible
failure is that i and many thousands kenyans paid
>> upfront to the
ict system for a service that was not
delivered
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KNEC giving candidates,
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>> Author: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>>
Date: 29th December 2009 12:51
>>
>>
MM,
>>
>> I guess it's a bit premature to blame the System,
the problem stems from
>> how
>> the whole announcement was
managed, it was improper for the Ministers
>> handlers to say the
results would be available on the site immediately
>>
after
>> the speech, with the anxiety that had been going on i'm sure
even the
>> best
>> servers might not have handled the hits,
no wonder the systems were
>> unable
>> to cope, however
this serves as a lesson to KNEC, i am sure they will do
>> better in
2010.
>>
>> Happy New Year !
>>
>> On
12/29/09, mureithi <mureithi at summitstrategies.co.ke>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Zachary
>>> This was the
great opportunity for the ict system to prove its value to
>>>
our
>>> society. It failed miserably to just serve less than 1
percent of the
>>> population and had to walk to schools. Zain
however stood tall and 2228
>>> worked.
>>>
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>>> Subject:
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>>> Author:
Zachary Ochieng <zzachmbir at yahoo.com>
>>>
Date: 29th December 2009 09:59
>>>
>>>
>>>
Despite the digitisation of exam results by the Kenya National
>>>
Examinations Council (KNEC) and the Ministry of Education, the
platform
>>> doesn't seem to be working. My daughter is one of the
candidates who
>>> sat
>>> KCPE in November 2009. But
more than two hours after the release of the
>>> results by
Education minister Sam Ongeri, the KNEC website from where
>>>
the
>>> candidates are supposed to check their results remains
down. Worse
>>> still,
>>> the 2228 no. to which
candidates should text their index numbers to get
>>> results is
also not working but continues to consume airtime to the
>>> tune
of
>>> Ksh 20 per SMS. If this is not a rip off, then I don't know
the
>>> definition,
>>> coming as it does at a time
when the ministry is reeling from a theft
>>>
scandal.
>>>
>>> One wonders what else the ministry
could be hiding. While announcing
>>> the
>>> top
candidates, Ongeri never mentioned the names of their schools.
But
>>> it is
>>> anyone's guess that majority of them
are from private schools. Rather
>>> than
>>> bash the
media as he did during the release of the results, Ongeri
>>>
should
>>> tell us what is bedevilling
FPE.
>>>
>>> Can someone please help? MY daughter has
refused to take lunch until
>>> she
>>> gets her
results.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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