[kictanet] Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: S.Murigi Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?
To: Brian Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>

Well Cisco had sued them for ....

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Brian Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Murigi,
>
> Actually, if you look at all of Huawei and ZTEs CDMA products, they
> purchase/license the core chip from Qualcomm, who have the patent for the
> technology. In fact, they ate Qualcomms biggest partner.
>
> Brian
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2010, at 10:37 AM, S.Murigi Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> All well & good. If the Chinese listened to these kinds of (valid) points
> there would be no Huawei or ZTE in existence. Knowledge first (primary) &
> legalities (later but) not to be ignored.
>
> No nation has developed by impressing foreigners but primarily by being
> civilized (not harming anyone including foreigners), believing in its own
> people & by promoting learning with its boundaries.
>
> SMM
>
> ------------------------------
> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 09:47
> To: murigi.muraya at gmail.com
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?
>
> Good morning all,
>
> I didn't refer to Prof. Kamau, I referred to the statement of Dr Ndemo,
> which he kindly qualified. I am aware of the debate of generic drugs and the
> arguments made that the public good should override patent rights. But this
> is, as I'm sure everyone is also aware of, a complex topic, with an equally
> complex international legal framework, and as much as it's easy to hate big
> pharma, I think some recognition needs to be given to companies that invest
> heavily in R&D.
>
> In the Kenyan debate specifically, I would find it counterproductive if
> senior government officials openly call for patent right infringements (and
> again, Dr Ndemo did qualify his statement). Apart from the fact that I'd
> rather like to see innovation encouraged, it does nothing for Kenya's image
> towards international ICT and tech investors or people looking to outsource
> processes. Copy right and patent infringement and intellectual property
> right theft was and is a big concern in China, and Kenya has none of the
> advantages that China offers to offset these: very low-cost manufacturing
> environment and a huge domestic market. It's a bit of a contradiction to
> call for e.g. certifications etc to build international credibility, and
> then offset it with a signal like this.
>
> On the IPad specificially: I doubt that Kenyan companies, even if they
> managed to copy the IPad, would be able to build it at a lower cost, and the
> way the education sector is run now, they'd be stolen just as quickly as any
> book - probably faster. I went to the Intel Classmate launch a couple of
> years ago and they made a useful point that just handing out kiddie laptops
> is not the solution: You need the whole ecosystem to make them productive.
> Electricity, connectivity, a place to lock them up, and importantly a
> teaching plan that they are integrated into.
>
> Have a lovely day,
> Andrea
>
> On 9 February 2010 09:07, Walubengo J < <jwalu at yahoo.com>jwalu at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> @Andrea,
>>
>> Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?
>>
>> If I was Prof. Kamau, I would carefully ride on both - depending on the
>> convenience of the laws applicable and the demand for public good. Draw the
>> parallel with generic HIV medicines...
>>
>> walu.
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 2/9/10, Andrea Bohnstedt <<andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Andrea Bohnstedt < <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Getting a hold on cybercrime against women (cyber
>> pests!)
>> To: <jwalu at yahoo.com>jwalu at yahoo.com
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" < <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 12:40 AM
>>
>> Reverse engineering - or patent infringement?
>>
>> On 8 February 2010 21:01, < <http://mc/compose?to=bitange@jambo.co.ke>
>> bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear listers,
>>> Prof. Kamau, University of Nairobi's engineering school has successifully
>>> reverse engineered the converter box for digital TV.  Those willing to visit
>>> the fab lab next week should register with Awiti in my office.  His e-mail
>>> is <http://mc/compose?to=nawiti@information.go.ke>
>>> nawiti at information.go.ke.
>>>
>>> I am hoping soon we can reverse engineer the ipad so that we can use it
>>> to distribute e-books to all kids in the country and avoid this theft of
>>> textbooks.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Ndemo.
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>
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