[kictanet] Fwd: information on .africa and the lies surrounding an individual's push
Njeri
njeri.rionge at igniteconsulting.co.ke
Thu Aug 19 12:25:38 EAT 2010
Walu, Finally common sense becomes common sense as we know it.
I opted to saying nothing before, will continue to do so. But I needed
to note some sense in the thread and urge people to read in between
the lines closely.
Cross the T's and dot the I's.
Best,
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On Aug 19, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Barrack Otieno
<otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> Very democratic comments Walu :-)
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I really dont know who this lady is - other than having seeing her
> at the Kenyan IGF where she also pushed for the dot.Africa
> initiative. Indeed as Pierre mentions elsewhere, there's a parallel
> push @ http://www.dotafrica.org/home.html which I believe has the
> support of AfNOG, AfrNIC, AfTLD (the Af* organisations).
>
> However and I stand to be corrected - I think the ICANN process is
> quite open and transparent and we therefore cannot stop any bidder
> pushing to have a top level domain like dot.Africa (free for all
> approach that ofcourse has had its advantages and disadvantages).
>
> So whereas I support and understand the need have dot.africa under
> the family and philosophy of Af* organisations, we really have no
> control over other bidders trying to get there first. Maybe we
> should just up our game and get the domain before the competition.
>
> walu.
> disclaimer: comments shared are personal and not the view of the
> organisations I am affiliated with.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: information on .africa and the lies
> surrounding an individual's push
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 11:34 PM
>
>
> @ Njenga,
> It's not really about who is onlist or not, but during the just
> concluded EAIGF in Uganda one 'iron lady' has been claiming to speak
> on behalf of AU and that there are some endorsements made that she
> presented to this regional forum, which turned out to be a sham!
>
> I hope Brian my explanation is right.
>
> On 18 August 2010 18:24, Njenga Gathecha <njenga.mkenya at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Hello all. I think the best thing to do is to have all the members
> listed somewhere and then in case of doubt, listers can consult the
> list. This would ward off cons who may seek to exploit innocents.
>
> Thanks for pointing this out now.
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just received this. Apparently she has formally been propagating
> lies about being on the ICANN board etc.... and even put up
> counterfiet letters on her website - this verges on criminal! What
> is her interest?
>
> Brian
>
> ------------------------
>
> Brian,
>
> here is some info for you.. she constructed this whole thing on
> lies. you can judge for yourself. I did not want to spam all but I
> sent this to a few key people. check this:
>
> - there is no African Union Authority!!!! do you really believe that
> the Chairman of the AU Commission will have claimed to write on
> behalf of a non existent authority and give her a letter in that
> sense? so maybe she should explain to people why she has a 'weird'
> letter on her website. Check her website and you will see.
>
> - here is an email that tells you how she lies! she actually took me
> to the ombudsman at ICANN in 2007, complaining that I was preventing
> her from doing dot africa, copied the whole board at the time ---
> all her claims were immediately dismissed when I sent the letters
> and emails to the ombudsman, of the same caliber as the below that
> she had been sending to regional organisations and bodies. My fault
> was to have written to all organisations, as the Regional Liaison,
> to dismiss her claims of ICANN endorsement of dot africa and her
> being on the board.
>
> - she keeps saying ICANN is endorsing dot africa! how can ICANN
> endorse a TLD?? how can ICANN be judge and party???? she is supposed
> to have been at the GNSO council and ICANN and understand what she
> is talking about!!!! she has been in the ICANN process for the past
> 5 years and still has no idea how all this functions.
>
> I let you judge. The woman does not have her wits together I think.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sophia Bekele <sophiabekele at yahoo.com>
>
> 30/08/2006 01:48 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject
>
> Re:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello <name removed>,
>
> I hope your vacation is going well. As per discussion, I thought I
> would convey someof what is on my plate that may be of mutual
> interest.
>
> Presently, other than my private projects/business interests, I also
> serve on the board of ICANN, the international internet governance
> organization. At this stage, I have outlined few projects in
> addition to an initiative that could quickly put under incubation.
> Any or all of these could serve as a basis for mutual collaboration.
>
> Generally speaking the projects span ICT, public sector governance,
> regional integration, internet governance etc..
>
> The priority project I mentioned to UN Undersecretary General was
> that of dot.africa (.Africa) which he expressed great interest.
> Thus, there will be a need to synergize and align strategies of
> possible project collaboration.
>
> Dot.Africa is an initiative supported by ICANN, that aims at
> unifying and consolidating the African Information Society and
> presence within the Internet as distinct from other Continental
> communities. As such, there now exists dot.EU (.EU), dot.Asia.
> (.ASIA) and dot.LatinAmerica (.LA) as similar ongoing initiatives.
> The present paradigm is to halt Africans marginalization in this age
> of globalization. This is actually one of the goals of NEPAD, which
> of course is an initiative that is already endorsed b the UN. There
> are no prices for guessing what would happen if dot.Africa is not
> also initiated and implemented at the same time that other
> Continental communities on the net have been put in place.
>
> To get this of the ground, it appears from the experiences of the
> others, a minimum of 13 countries in Africawould have to come on
> board. The endorsement for UNECA would of course be helpful. This
> initiative would require a proposal to be distributed to the
> potential participating countries. UNECA’s help would be crucial in
> communicating who might wish to participate. Countries that have a
> lready have ongoing National policies that relate ICT as a strategic
> tool for National development would be the primary candidates. Be
> ing something that would turn into a Continental initiative, it is r
> ewarding at best for the UNECA to play an active role in this initia
> l stage.
>
> As an African representative on ICANN board, I have taken the
> initiative to coordinate and see the successful implementation of
> the project. I believe therefore, we should have a meeting to
> progress this further. I suggest we meet ASAP to get this moving,
> as time is of essence to the extent that the application for the
> domain name must be submitted before January 2007.
>
> However due to our travel schedules, we should arrange a
> teleconference meeting that is mutually convenient for all within
> the next two weeks.
>
> Regards,
> Sophia
>
>
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