[kictanet] Fwd: information on .africa and the lies surrounding an individual's push

Thu Aug 19 11:28:42 EAT 2010

Very democratic comments Walu :-)

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I really dont know who this lady is - other than having seeing her at the
> Kenyan IGF where she also pushed for the dot.Africa initiative. Indeed as
> Pierre mentions elsewhere, there's a parallel push @
> http://www.dotafrica.org/home.html which I believe has the support of
> AfNOG, AfrNIC, AfTLD (the  Af* organisations).
>
> However and I stand to be corrected -  I think the ICANN process is quite
> open and transparent and we therefore cannot stop any bidder pushing to have
> a top level domain like dot.Africa (free for all approach that ofcourse has
> had its advantages and disadvantages).
>
> So whereas I support and understand the need have dot.africa under the
> family and philosophy of Af* organisations, we really have no control over
> other bidders trying to get there first. Maybe we should just up our game
> and get the domain before the competition.
>
> walu.
> disclaimer: comments shared are personal and not the view of the
> organisations I am affiliated with.
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/18/10, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: information on .africa and the lies
> surrounding an individual's push
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 11:34 PM
>
>
> @ Njenga,
> It's not really about who is onlist or not, but during the just concluded
> EAIGF in Uganda one 'iron lady' has been claiming to speak on behalf of AU
> and that there are some endorsements made that she presented to this
> regional forum, which turned out to be a sham!
>
> I hope Brian my explanation is right.
>
> On 18 August 2010 18:24, Njenga Gathecha <njenga.mkenya at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=njenga.mkenya@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Hello all. I think the best thing to do is to have all the members listed
> somewhere and then in case of doubt, listers can consult the list. This
> would ward off cons who may seek to exploit innocents.
>
> Thanks for pointing this out now.
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=blongwe@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just received this. Apparently she has formally been propagating lies about
> being on the ICANN board etc.... and even put up counterfiet letters on her
> website - this verges on criminal! What is her interest?
>
> Brian
>
> ------------------------
>
> Brian,
>
> here is some info for you.. she constructed this whole thing on lies. you
> can judge for yourself. I did not want to spam all but I sent this to a few
> key people.  check this:
>
> - there is no African Union Authority!!!! do you really believe that the*Chairman of the AU Commission
> * will have claimed to write on behalf of a non existent authority and
> give her a letter in that sense? so maybe she should explain to people why
> she has a 'weird' letter on her website. Check her website and you will see.
>
> - here is an email that tells you how she lies! she actually took me to the
> ombudsman at ICANN in 2007, complaining that I was preventing her from doing
> dot africa, copied the whole board at the time --- all her claims were
> immediately dismissed when I sent the letters and emails to the ombudsman,
> of the same caliber as the below that she had been sending to regional
> organisations and bodies. My fault was to have written to all organisations,
> as the Regional Liaison, to dismiss her claims of ICANN endorsement of dot
> africa and her being on the board.
>
> - she keeps saying ICANN is endorsing dot africa! how can ICANN endorse a
> TLD?? how can ICANN be judge and party???? she is supposed to have been at
> the GNSO council and ICANN and understand what she is talking about!!!! she
> has been in the ICANN process for the past 5 years and still has no idea how
> all this functions.
>
> I let you judge. The woman does not have her wits together I think.
>
> Cheers
>
>   *Sophia Bekele <sophiabekele at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=sophiabekele@yahoo.com>
> >*
>
> 30/08/2006 01:48 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>   Subject
>
> Re:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello <name removed>,
>
> I hope your vacation is going well.  As per discussion, I thought I would
> convey someof what is on my plate that may be of mutual interest.
>
> Presently, other than my private projects/business interests, I also serve
> on the board of ICANN, the international internet governance organization.
> At this stage, I have outlined few projects in addition to an initiative
> that could quickly put under incubation.  Any or all of these could serve as
> a basis for mutual collaboration.
>
> Generally speaking the projects span ICT, public sector governance,
> regional integration, internet governance etc..
>
> The priority project I mentioned to UN Undersecretary General was that of
> dot.africa (.Africa) which he expressed great interest.  Thus, there will
> be a need to synergize and align strategies of possible project
> collaboration.
>
> Dot.Africa is an initiative supported by ICANN,  that aims at unifying and
> consolidating the African Information Society and presence within the
> Internet as distinct from other Continental communities.  As such, there now
> exists dot.EU (.EU),  dot.Asia.(.ASIA) and dot.LatinAmerica (.LA) as
> similar ongoing initiatives.  The present paradigm is to halt Africans
> marginalization in this age of globalization.  This is actually one of the
> goals of NEPAD, which of course is an initiative that is already endorsed b
> the UN.  There are no prices for guessing what would happen if dot.Africais not also initiated and implemented at the same time that other
> Continental  communities on the net have been put in place.
>
> To get this of the ground, it appears from the experiences of the others, a
> minimum of 13 countries in Africawould have to come on board.  The
> endorsement for UNECA would of course be helpful.   This initiative would
> require a proposal to be distributed to the potential participating
> countries.  UNECA’s help would be crucial in communicating who might wish to
> participate.  Countries that have already have ongoing National policies
> that relate ICT as a strategic tool for National development would be the
> primary candidates.   Being something that would turn into a Continental
> initiative, it is rewarding at best for the UNECA to play an active role in
> this initial stage.
>
> As an African representative on ICANN board, I have taken the initiative to
> coordinate and see the successful implementation of the project.  I believe
> therefore, we should have a meeting to progress this further.  I suggest we
> meet ASAP to get this moving, as time is of essence to the extent that the
> application for the domain name must be submitted before January 2007.
>
> However due to our travel schedules, we should arrange a teleconference
> meeting that is mutually convenient for all within the next two weeks.
>
> Regards,
> Sophia
>
>
>
>
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