[kictanet] Time Out!

warigia bowman warigia at gmail.com
Fri Sep 11 00:02:05 EAT 2009


Well put Nyaki. I second your comments.
Warigia

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Catherine Adeya <elizaslider at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Walu,
>
> I am equally concerned and have come in at the tail-end when I heard  what
> was going on in Kicatnet (actually offline in various ICT fora). I have had
> a chance to catch up on emails and I am shocked and equally disgusted. I had
> thought I should not reply but hey....I know it is a challenge for you as
> the moderator but my advice to all is to stick to ICT issues, if you cannot
> you really should be struck from this list.
>
> We have had many healthy and useful debates, let us not degrade the great
> opportunity we have to interact on this online forum. There are many
> countries where this would not be allowed, however productive and innocent
> it was. Let us not abuse our opportunities. KICTANET has been used as a
> model in many parts of Africa, and there is still room for
> it......personality issues MUST NOT BE ALLOWED! Please respect this
> space....I do understand Consumers must have a voice but do put your issues
> in appropriate language and stick to the issues.....if it high cost of the
> Internet....just say so and let others give suggestions etc.
>
> Best,
>
> Nyaki
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "jwalubengo at mmu.ac.ke" <jwalubengo at mmu.ac.ke>
> *To:* elizaslider at yahoo.com
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:58:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Time Out!
>
> Guys,
>
> I am equally shocked at the amount of venom we can emit online in such a
> short time.  As the moderator of the  list, I have had to suspend Onyango
> Hatari's posts (which are all queued up for delivery but after I screen
> them). So Onyango Hatari plse just hold your horses.
>
> I must also confess that we are yet to constitute a fool-proof mechanism
> that could match online identities to physical real-life identities - that
> way people would be more accountable to what they say (the recent Kenyan
> judicial ruling on someone who send a defamatory SMS (text message) being
> a notable legal precedent for all us)
>
> Having said that, lets all be diplomatic, where a Diplomat has been once
> defined as someone who can tell you to go to hell and you actually look
> forward to taking the trip ;-) In other words, there are ways in which we
> can disagree without getting (digitally) physical. Otherwise all these
> online forums would lose their value that has been widely acclaimed as a
> role model for multi-stakeholder, bottom-up, consultative processes.
>
> regards,
> walu.
> nb: not sure why my regular jwalu at yahoo.com not working.
> > Bill
> >
> > My internet teacher at AVU taught me one thing. When you are chatting or
> > mailing anyone you have not met, assume he is a dog. So I assume you are
> a
> > Dog and I hope that you do the same way
> >
> > OH
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: billkagai at gmail.com
> >> Sent: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:12:31 +0300
> >> To: onyango at inbox.com
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet
> >> prices
> >>
> >> Alex,
> >> Don't beat around the bush.
> >>
> >> 1. Have you met Onyango Hatari in person??
> >> 2. Do you have his contacts??
> >> 3. Are you Onyango Hatari??
> >>
> >> Call me....0724226600 we discuss this matter. We need to straighten
> >> this matter!!!!
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Gakuru Alex
> >> <alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Bill, your remark as it stands right here borders on something already
> >>> illegal.... Please take note.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Bill Kagai <billkagai at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Ladies and Gentlemen,
> >>>>
> >>>> We are missing the point here. Clearly, 'Onyango Hatari' does not
> >>>> exist and is just a pseudonym for someone we know quite well on this
> >>>> list who prefers to spew hatred using a different email address. This
> >>>> matter in no longer on 'consumers' rights'.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would encourage Michael Joseph to report to the nearest police
> >>>> station for investigations to commence with a view of suing for libel
> >>>> because this is clear defamation. The Chairman of the ICT Consumers
> >>>> Association should be one of the respondents 'to assist police with
> >>>> investigations' since he seems to be the only one who knows the true
> >>>> identity of one Onyango Hatari. Or is there anyone in this list who
> >>>> has actually interacted with Onyango Hatari???
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Bildad Kagai
> >>>> MD - MediaCorp Limited
> >>>> Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor
> >>>> Suite B2, Tetu Court, State House Avenue
> >>>> P. O. Box 20311 - 00200
> >>>> Nairobi, Kenya
> >>>> Tel. 254 20 272 8332
> >>>> Fax. Rendered Obsolete
> >>>> S - 1°17'13.8"
> >>>> E - 36°48'22.7"
> >>>> www.mediacorp.co.ke
> >>>> ---
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bildad Kagai
> >> MD - MediaCorp Limited
> >> Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor
> >> Suite B2, Tetu Court, State House Avenue
> >> P. O. Box 20311 - 00200
> >> Nairobi, Kenya
> >> Tel. 254 20 272 8332
> >> Fax. Rendered Obsolete
> >> S - 1°17'13.8"
> >> E - 36°48'22.7"
> >> www.mediacorp.co.ke
> >> ---
> >>
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