[kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices

Thu Sep 10 23:21:28 EAT 2009

Bill,

Stay on and fight for what you want while in the 'system.' If you pull
out, you;ll have lost the battle of internet rights and users!

On 10/09/2009, Catherine Adeya <elizaslider at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Leaving the list is not the solution....in my view there is more good than
> bad.
>
> N
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bill Kagai <billkagai at gmail.com>
> To: elizaslider at yahoo.com
> Cc: ke-users <ke-internetusers at bdix.net>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:57:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
>
> Alex,
> Robert is apparently well known following emails I received from
> highly reputable people in the Human Rights sector where he last
> attacked. Through a bdix.net mailing list. You have opted to keep
> quiet about this.
>
> If you continue protecting his identity and he remains a member of
> your organisation, you ought to be ACCOUNTABLE as the chairman and let
> him face the full wrath of his RESPONSIBILITY. Otherwise, you are an
> accomplice.
>
> Don't mix the sad issue of Defamation today with Consumer Rights. I
> also want cheap internet.
>
> Also take heed, I do not represent Michael Joseph or any other person
> who faced attacks from Robert but I took responsibility to unearth the
> culprit as a proud Kenyan who is not ready to see one soul drive us
> into a destructive path.
>
> Unless you become bold and expose him, I am sorry I do not have
> anything good to say about you too and your organisation. Actually, I
> do not know what am doing in this list any more.
>
> Good bye....ALL. I can certainly get better things to do.....
>
> Bill
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Bill,
>>
>> "The trouble with being in the rat race is that even if you win,
>> you're still a rat."- Lily Tomlin.
>> I shall steer clear of the lowly races.
>>
>> inline responses,
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Bill Kagai <billkagai at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Alex,
>>> Don't beat around the bush.
>>
>> Bill = Impunity? Let's see....
>>
>> But if you wish;
>>
>> 1) find out from your Safaricom friend where I was all day today. Ask
>> them for my mobile phone user location tracking and the days calls and
>> messages log to verify that indeed I had my handset on me all day. You
>> are aware that they all have all this huge amount of data(SMS, calls,
>> location, transaction, whom we call, when, conversation details etc )
>> on all of our communications on their servers, right? We do not ask
>> for Data Protection bill aimlessly.
>>
>> 2) Indulge your investigations skills more- e.g. ask my neighbours if
>> I was at the location given unto you.
>>
>> 3) Go to Kenya Power and Lighting Company and ask them for their power
>> rationing program for today. And confirm whether indeed my location
>> had an outage.
>>
>> 4) I spoke with several respected senior personalities today who
>> needed data and information. Without power, I regretted, I could not
>> send them via emails. I am ready to give you their numbers for you to
>> confirm if indeed I told them so.
>>
>>> 1. Have you met Onyango Hatari in person??
>>> 2. Do you have his contacts??
>>> 3. Are you Onyango Hatari??
>>>
>>> Call me....0724226600 we discuss this matter. We need to straighten
>>> this matter!!!!
>>
>> I shall not qualify or dignify your allegations with an honourable
>> response.
>>
>> @Journalist: Anne-Marie Kinyanjui (and despite your disclaimer):
>>
>> Are you are qualified to advice us on consumer advocacy and
>> telecommunications investments? You wrote me an email asking for me
>> for data. What did you really want it for?
>> Whom does a journalist write for? See for "professional journalist"
>> here <http://tinyurl.com/john-pilger-video>
>>
>> I can send to kictanet the KBC and NTV News clips of the same Michael
>> Joseph interview, then all you can understand what I mean. Moderator
>> let me know I can do that? (~10MB).
>>
>> ----------
>> Finally,
>>
>> My data-based analysis remains valid, until and unless Safaricom's
>> Michael Joseph offers  verifiable proof on the contrary. Internet
>> prices have to come down, immediately!
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Gakuru Alex
>>> <alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Bill, your remark as it stands right here borders on something already
>>>> illegal.... Please take note.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Bill Kagai <billkagai at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are missing the point here. Clearly, 'Onyango Hatari' does not
>>>>> exist and is just a pseudonym for someone we know quite well on this
>>>>> list who prefers to spew hatred using a different email address. This
>>>>> matter in no longer on 'consumers' rights'.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would encourage Michael Joseph to report to the nearest police
>>>>> station for investigations to commence with a view of suing for libel
>>>>> because this is clear defamation. The Chairman of the ICT Consumers
>>>>> Association should be one of the respondents 'to assist police with
>>>>> investigations' since he seems to be the only one who knows the true
>>>>> identity of one Onyango Hatari. Or is there anyone in this list who
>>>>> has actually interacted with Onyango Hatari???
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bildad Kagai
>>>>> MD - MediaCorp Limited
>>>>> Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor
>>>>> Suite B2, Tetu Court, State House Avenue
>>>>> P. O. Box 20311 - 00200
>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>> Tel. 254 20 272 8332
>>>>> Fax. Rendered Obsolete
>>>>> S - 1°17'13.8"
>>>>> E - 36°48'22.7"
>>>>> www.mediacorp.co.ke
>>>>> --
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