[kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit

[robert yawe]

Thank you all for the insight into the fibre optic issues, but I wonder why this was not made clear from the onset so that our expectations would have been more realistic.

With this information we would definitely not have been expecting a drop in the cost of internet connectivity but of bandwidth.

So why didn't the partners negotiate for a complete circuit instead of leaving such a gaping hole in the link?

Thanks a lot again, it is now clearer now.

Have a responsible weekend.

Robert Yawe

KAY System Technologies Ltd

Phoenix House, 6th Floor

P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200

Kenya



Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

--- On Fri, 2/10/09, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit
To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Friday, 2 October, 2009, 8:32 AM

McTim, Kai,

I can bet you have confused more than shedding light on this issue.  But I cant blame you.  It's not something one can explain in two or three emails. Typcially its a full-semester course issue... but here could be some highlights.

http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf

walu.


--- On Fri, 10/2/09, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 10:28 AM
> Hi Robert,
> 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > For a while I wondered why the TEAMS cable has not
> gone hot yet it landed over 2 weeks ago, yesterday I got the
> answer.
> >
> > The headline in the newpaper story indicated that
> Jamii, a partner in the TEAMS project had finally connected
> to Europe from Fujaira, which sounded a little strange. 
> Where did  the fibre cable terminate to when it got to
> Fujaira?
> >
> 
> SEA-ME-WE-3 and SEA-ME-WE-4 and FLAG all land in
> Fujiarah.  I assume
> there is a central landing station, with links to EMIX at
> that
> physical location.
> 
> 
> >
> > What this statement would suggest is that the
> termination in Fujaira does not actually connect into the
> Internet backbone but is actually an "open end" from where
> the providers must find a carrier, read IPOP, to get them
> onto the Internet.
> >
> 
> That's what I got from the newspaper articles as well.
> 
> 
> >
> > Maybe I do not understand this Internet connectivity
> issue, but taking an analogy that if Kenya Power connect
> electricity to my house (before which hopefully I had
> already wired the inside of the house for lights, sockets
> and cookers) the minute then the minute I flick a switch a
> light will come on (subject to power rationing schedule and
> having bought and installed an energy saving bulb).
> 
> The analogy is flawed.  The power company is a service
> provider, the
> submarine cables are not providing Internet connectivity as
> such.
> 
> Power flows down a power line to your house,that's what you
> consume.
> 
> light flows down glass (Layer 1 and 2).  Internet
> Packets (Layer 3 and
> higher) are encoded in this light.
> 
> >
> > Can someone out there familiar with fibre optic cable
> termination shade some light on this issue for my benefit
> and also many others out there.
> 
> TEAMS cable carries light waves.  The investors in
> TEAMS have the
> right to this capacity.  ISPs have to buy transit
> (their Internet
> access) from other providers(or peer with lots of other
> players).  As
> an ISP on TEAMS, one has to either buy transit at some
> location
> (London, Amsterdam, New York, Hong Kong, wherever) and haul
> it to
> Fujairah, OR buy it in the UAE.
> 
> Have no coffee in the house, so this might be confusing,
> sorry.
> 
> --
> Cheers,
> 
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where
> it is. A
> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
> 
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