<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Thank you all for the insight into the fibre optic issues, but I wonder why this was not made clear from the onset so that our expectations would have been more realistic.<br><br>With this information we would definitely not have been expecting a drop in the cost of internet connectivity but of bandwidth.<br><br>So why didn't the partners negotiate for a complete circuit instead of leaving such a gaping hole in the link?<br><br>Thanks a lot again, it is now clearer now.<br><br>Have a responsible weekend.<br><br>Robert Yawe<br>
KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
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Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 2/10/09, Walubengo J <i><jwalu@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com><br>Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit<br>To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<br>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>Date: Friday, 2 October, 2009, 8:32 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail">McTim, Kai,<br><br>I can bet you have confused more than shedding light on this issue. But I cant blame you. It's not something one can explain in two or three emails. Typcially its a full-semester course issue... but here could be some highlights.<br><br><a href="http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf"
target="_blank">http://www.strathmore.edu/pdf/ictc-08/internet-interconnection-model.pdf</a><br><br>walu.<br><br><br>--- On Fri, 10/2/09, McTim <<a ymailto="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> From: McTim <<a ymailto="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] TEAMS and Open ended circuit<br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <<a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 10:28 AM<br>> Hi Robert,<br>> <br>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:48 AM, robert yawe <<a ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk"
href="/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > For a while I wondered why the TEAMS cable has not<br>> gone hot yet it landed over 2 weeks ago, yesterday I got the<br>> answer.<br>> ><br>> > The headline in the newpaper story indicated that<br>> Jamii, a partner in the TEAMS project had finally connected<br>> to Europe from Fujaira, which sounded a little strange. <br>> Where did the fibre cable terminate to when it got to<br>> Fujaira?<br>> ><br>> <br>> SEA-ME-WE-3 and SEA-ME-WE-4 and FLAG all land in<br>> Fujiarah. I assume<br>> there is a central landing station, with links to EMIX at<br>> that<br>> physical location.<br>> <br>> <br>> ><br>> > What this statement would suggest is that the<br>> termination in Fujaira does not actually connect into the<br>> Internet backbone but is actually
an "open end" from where<br>> the providers must find a carrier, read IPOP, to get them<br>> onto the Internet.<br>> ><br>> <br>> That's what I got from the newspaper articles as well.<br>> <br>> <br>> ><br>> > Maybe I do not understand this Internet connectivity<br>> issue, but taking an analogy that if Kenya Power connect<br>> electricity to my house (before which hopefully I had<br>> already wired the inside of the house for lights, sockets<br>> and cookers) the minute then the minute I flick a switch a<br>> light will come on (subject to power rationing schedule and<br>> having bought and installed an energy saving bulb).<br>> <br>> The analogy is flawed. The power company is a service<br>> provider, the<br>> submarine cables are not providing Internet connectivity as<br>> such.<br>> <br>> Power flows down a power line to your house,that's what you<br>>
consume.<br>> <br>> light flows down glass (Layer 1 and 2). Internet<br>> Packets (Layer 3 and<br>> higher) are encoded in this light.<br>> <br>> ><br>> > Can someone out there familiar with fibre optic cable<br>> termination shade some light on this issue for my benefit<br>> and also many others out there.<br>> <br>> TEAMS cable carries light waves. The investors in<br>> TEAMS have the<br>> right to this capacity. ISPs have to buy transit<br>> (their Internet<br>> access) from other providers(or peer with lots of other<br>> players). As<br>> an ISP on TEAMS, one has to either buy transit at some<br>> location<br>> (London, Amsterdam, New York, Hong Kong, wherever) and haul<br>> it to<br>> Fujairah, OR buy it in the UAE.<br>> <br>> Have no coffee in the house, so this might be confusing,<br>> sorry.<br>> <br>> --<br>> Cheers,<br>> <br>>
McTim<br>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where<br>> it is. A<br>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> kictanet mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" href="/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br>> <br>> This message was sent to: <a ymailto="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>> Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com</a><br>> <br><br><br>
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