[kictanet] Cable issues
Vitalis Olunga
VOlunga at Safaricom.co.ke
Mon Nov 9 13:24:45 EAT 2009
This could be of interest. Particularly the article on Trans-Sector
Strategies in Africa has information on the approach that is being used
in Angola.
VKO
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On Behalf Of godera at skyweb.co.ke
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:23 AM
To: Vitalis Olunga
Cc: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
Well said Evans. In my view, if all players were sharing the
infrastructure, no
one would be complaining of being sabotaged.
They would all focus their energies if at all vandalism takes place on
uniting
to put an end to the vandalism, rather than the current scenario.
Gilda Odera
Quoting "Evans J. Nyagah" <ejnyagah at Telkom.co.ke>:
> I can agree more with Noor,
> In the recently concluded AITEC fiber summit conference at Laico, I
> tried to advance this philosophy and was accused of advancing a big
> brother concept.
> Shared service will help utilize the economies of scale to reach many
> with the infrastructure without replicating. It is indeed unfortunate
> that you have several players each with parallel cables of
underutilized
> capacity. The investment could otherwise be extended to cover more
areas
> in a scalable manner.
> When we players start talking to each other and sell and buy capacity
to
> each other? Does CCK has a role to play?
>
> Evans
>
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> From: kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+ejnyagah=telkom.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
On
> Behalf Of mahmoods21 at gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 12:14 PM
> To: Evans J. Nyagah
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: [kictanet] Cable issues
>
>
> Providers need to share infrastructure,it beats logic to see different
> providers digging next to each other on same side of the road,this
also
> inconveniences road users regularly especilly in urban areas. A first
> timer in a route should have extra conduits that can be used by
> competitors in future,once we share the suspicion of competition
> sabotaging will reduce.
> We also need to educate the public on the importance of the cable
> network to our country,economy and make a connection to how a cable
cut
> impacts on their lives,ultimately the communities are the best
> custodians in their areas,we should also encourage contractors to use
> locals in each of the areas the cable is enroute and let them instill
a
> sense of ownership to this communities.
> If government could perform well,local authorities and the state could
> be building and owning fibre routes or just the conduits and lease to
> all interested providers.
> With the fibre cuts each day we are reducing the kenya s potential of
> being the preffered gateway to landlocked countries like
> Uganda,Rwanda,S.Sudan etc,hence reducing our dominance in the region
and
> in the process loosing economic/employment opportunities,
>
> Concerned,frustrated
>
> Mahmoud Noor
> Sent from my BlackBerry(r)
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> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:14:08 +0300
> From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke>
> To: <jairah at kippra.or.ke>
> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
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> It would help if we could get our day in court. Vandalism is one
thing,
> negligence another. We as Operators spend huge amounts on staff we
> attach to
> contractors to make sure they don't destroy our cable plant .. If they
> do,
> we never get compensated. Taking them to court takes years and you
might
> only get awarded the cost of the cable plus the labor ..
>
> Frustrated
>
> Kai
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> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im
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> Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 20:40
> An: kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Betreff: Re: [kictanet] Cable issues
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> Colleagues
>
> What I would suggest is to have a law to protect critical
infrastructure
> from vagabonds such as those that destroy cables and other
> infrastructure
> that we need to sustain the enabling environment for doing business.
The
> penalties this guys receive are a joke and the law needs to target the
> entire value chain, at least on the Kenyan perhaps East African side.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Eric Aligula
> Sent from my BlackBerry?
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> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 19:07:21
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> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:16:41 +0300
> From: "kai wulff" <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke>
> To: "'Jevans Nyabiage'" <jnyabiage at nation.co.ke>
> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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> Sabotage and Vandalism look very similar .. Unless we ask the people
> doing
> it we would not know the motives.
>
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> The fault on Monday was caused by contractors of another operator who
> was
> not following procedures and who thought that by virtue of working for
a
> partly state owned company he will be allowed to do what he wants
> (happens
> very often, treatment of Operators is still not equal).
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> Today was clearly a fault caused by someone who ON PURPOSE cut the
> cable.
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> Did the person want to steal a cable and stopped when seeing it was
not
> metal or was he there to sabotage the network - I would not know.
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> Kai
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> Von: kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kai.wulff=kdn.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] Im
> Auftrag von Jevans Nyabiage
> Gesendet: Friday, November 06, 2009 19:07
> An: kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Betreff: [kictanet] Cable issues
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> In the last few weeks there has been an outcry over increasing in
> disruption
> of networks with some of the affected firms pointing to industrial
> sabotage.
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> Safaricom was the first this week to claim "acts of sabotage" on the
> disruption of its network. The Orange the next day arrested some cable
> vandals and attributed it to suspected sabotage.
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> This Friday (today) Seacom fibre cable went offline for about four
> hours,
> they said this was due to cuts on KDN fibre around Voi.
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> Is this 'sabotage' real or imagined?
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