[kictanet] Day 10/11 of 12- BPO Discussions, Strengths and Weaknesses (Observations from USA and UK); and Trends and Niches

Mon Jun 15 18:08:38 EAT 2009

On The Rules of Journalism and nationalism, Jon Swift's Rule 3 "The
only exception to Rules 1 and 2 is that during wartime journalists
must be patriotic and not write anything that might undermine the
government or the war effort or lower morale. Wearing a flag pin on
one's lapel is a good way to demonstrate you are adhering to this
rule. Reporters should always remember that they are Americans first,
journalists second and human beings third."
<http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2007/11/journalism-101.html>

Contriving above, several have alluded that ours is a 'chaotic'
self-interest media whose journalists first writer for the (media)
businesses, next for own poverty eradication, a few professional
journalists, comedian radio broadcasters on sex-breakfast-talk-shows,
and finally, after kenya burns,,, as they become 'patriotic' Kenyans.
Why would Freedom House say they excercise self-censorship?

"Though individual internet users generally seem comfortable
expressing themselves freely online, mainstream media organizations’
online portals and their correspondents practice some
self-censorship..."<http://freedom4internet.blogspot.com/2009/05/kenya-igif-2009.html>

These things raise some legitimacy questions on otherwise honest calls
for "Sacred Press Freedom." Debatable, of course...

PS: I have attached "Why consumers are dissatisfied with the media" views.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Wainaina
Mungai<wainaina at madeinkenya.org> wrote:
> Well,
>
> I am a mwananchi wa kawaida first...then a media or ICT person.
> Thinking as a mwananchi, i'd prefer a media that listens to wananchi.
> The bit that is similar in both govt&media is the insistence that they
> "speak for us" but neither wants to "listen to us".
>
> Listen to the IDPs and you'd temper the politics and focus on
> development. Listen to the hungry youth and you'd discuss solutions -
> not (only) point fingers.
>
> That said, it's not a media versus government war. It's meant to be
> engagement in various ways so as to achieve the good for mwananchi.
> However - most of our media is part of the 'capritalist class' being
> vilified by some.
>
> Resilience must be our greatest strength as a nation.
>
> Wainaina
>
> On 6/15/09, dmakali at yahoo.com <dmakali at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I wonder, does the media report for outsiders or kenyans who need the info
>> to make decisions in their daily lives? We live right here and the media has
>> a duty to report reality not make-believe propaganda for foreign investors.
>> Government shud fix the corruption, insecurity, infrastructure etc to create
>> an environment for investment not plead with the media to abdicate its
>> obligation to report accurately. If it did that it would be an accomplice in
>> deception. No need burying our heads in the sand for short term gain.
>> I have been to many countries and nothing tells me the kenyan media is
>> crazy, save for common professional shortcomings. If govt functioned half as
>> much as the media in the pursuit of greater kenya, we wud be far!
>> Last nite hundreds of pepole, me included, were stranded at moi airport in
>> msa because there were no lights on the runway so no planes could land or
>> take off.
>> I dont know how many pple missed their connecting international flights but
>> that does more damage to investor confidence than crime reports. I read
>> those everywhere i go but not about airports that have no lights. And that
>> takes just a generator. Or is that among the unspecified services that the
>> mysterious 1.5b in the budget will cater for? Long shot.
>> Bottomline- the media cant just be improvised to promote the interests of
>> the business and capitalist class. There is the rest of us citizens whose
>> welfare, life and worries too must be reported. Besides, it will be the same
>> media that will be whipped for keeping quiet when things were going wrong.
>> Remember the election fiasco? Yes, better blame the media now rather than
>> later for not warning of the danger lurking in our midst. Dont beseech the
>> media to join in the collective national amnesia and deception of the world.
>> Ask the govt to deal with the issues.
>>
>> David
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke
>>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:37:06
>> To: <dmakali at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 10/11 of 12- BPO Discussions, Strengths
>>  andWeaknesses (Observations from USA and UK); and Trends and Niches
>>
>>
>> Listers,
>> Please take a moment and see what is on-line from our papers today and
>> understand what I am trying to say.  You cannot convince even our people
>> in the diaspora to invest in Kenya.  Compare that with what SA has on the
>> web from their papers.  They have managed their violence especially on
>> foreingners well even as it continues.  We are showing machetes to
>> investors without critical analysis and how we see the future of our
>> country.
>>
>> The few potential investors I met this morning are distgusted with what
>> they see.  Allow me to request my brother Linus who is on this list to
>> remove the picture please.
>>
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Dr. Ndemo,
>>>
>>> I stopped watching news in the local media a while back. Too much negative
>>> stuff affecting the peace and tranquility I expect in my home.
>>>
>>> There is a lot of crime in S.A. yet the country is geared to host the
>>> World
>>> Cup come next year. How are they working to make it a success?
>>>
>>> I support you fully. It is high time we Kenyans started to think
>>> nationally
>>> as  a nation. To  look at the positives. We live in a real world and
>>> things
>>> will not always be perfect in any country, Kenya included.
>>> Therefore we should promote the positive aspects of Kenya first before we
>>> can expect outsiders to support us.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sammy Buruchara
>>> CEO NairobiNet Ltd
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: kictanet-bounces+sammy=opensystems.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+sammy=opensystems.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>>> Behalf Of bitange at jambo.co.ke
>>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:11 PM
>>> To: sammy at opensystems.co.ke
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 10/11 of 12- BPO Discussions, Strengths
>>> andWeaknesses (Observations from USA and UK); and Trends and Niches
>>>
>>> Prof.
>>> We should understand the impact of internet better.  Our papers are
>>> on-line and they contribute the greatest content out there.  A potential
>>> investor trying to surf the net, gets mostly negative information.  I am
>>> not against our media but they could do better in setting the agenda.  A
>>> few examples may help here.
>>>
>>> It is not only Kenya that has suffered the youth bulge.  This is something
>>> that has affected countries world over.  The US suffered in the 1930's
>>> leading the country to get rid of the problem by investing heavily on
>>> public works and the war.  In China they put much of their people into
>>> labour intensive public works (roads, energy, ICTs ets).  While they did
>>> this they also suffered a high rate of crime.  This is how the Al Capones
>>> came up.  Italy has had a mafia crisis over a long period of time but the
>>> media there did not only focus on crime.  They suggested economic
>>> solutions that have helped reduce crime in the south go down.  When we
>>> write about mungiki, we should also suggest a way forward.  We must also
>>> create hope for our people because we are all responsible for what happens
>>> in our land.
>>>
>>> The recent US elections were all about hope that things will change.  Look
>>> at the Uhuru Budget.  It was a budget of hope.  But read our yesterday
>>> papers.  While one Media house attempted to create hope.  The other
>>> focused on hopelessness - "the devil is in the details" - yet for once we
>>> were united in hope for our future.  I had expected many positive
>>> headlines out of the budget but I was disappointed.  This is a budget we
>>> should have leveraged to create a new Kenya.  A Kenya where we all have
>>> hope.  It gave us our much a waited new constitution.  That we can devolve
>>> our resources based on the districts.  That we may not need to dismantle a
>>> constitution that has relatively served us well for more than 40 years.
>>> That we may need only Parliament to amend only the governance aspects of
>>> our constitution as many civilized countries do.  This where media had a
>>> chance to set the agenda for this country but they have yet again wasted
>>> the opportunity.  It is not too late for them to bring hope.  The Vision
>>> 2030 can be achieved if we all agree that it will bring the desired
>>> change.
>>>
>>> I am glad we deviated a little but this discussion will shape our future
>>> policies.  Where we all respect one another.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Ndemo.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dr. Ndemo,
>>>>
>>>> You have captured very well the problem with us Kenyans. At the same
>>>> time,
>>>> it is important to acknowledge that we have very many people who are
>>>> positive and are doing very good things for this country. But they are
>>>> drowned by the bad elements amongst us. However, things will not change
>>>> if
>>>> we do not make a deliberate change intervention. According to me, it
>>>> will
>>>> be
>>>> almost impossible to achieve V2030 with this attitude. We must change.I
>>>> strongly believe that there is a 4th pillar that V2030 conceptualization
>>>> missed - NATIONAL COHESION. It is what is required to move forward and
>>>> fulfil the other plans. We could therefore argue that we need to sell
>>>> Kenya
>>>> to Kenyans before we go out to foreigners. Otherwise all the positive
>>>> messages that will be put out there in selling Kenya to investors by
>>>> whoever
>>>> (assuming we can get this right in the first instance) will soon be
>>>> negated
>>>> by the bad attitudes that you speak of. And who said Kenya must be
>>>> developed
>>>> by outsiders?
>>>>
>>>> I hope I have not sounded like a barking dog.
>>>>
>>>> tim mwololo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:16 AM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Catherine, some barking dogs are causing untold pain to our people.
>>>>> Hate
>>>>> against Kenyans in Tanzania is at its worst.  Irrespective who you are,
>>>>> you
>>>>> are refered to as Mungiki who is after grabbing Tanzanian land.  Whom
>>>>> do
>>>>> you
>>>>> think created this image for our people?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mungiki is more of any economic crisis in our country but our Media has
>>>>> refused to link the two.  We lack analytical depth in our media houses.
>>>>>  What you read is petty fitina.  When a media house purpots that "Cable
>>>>> lands into financial trouble" do you think such media has the interests
>>>>> of
>>>>> this country at heart?  If they did they should have asked the right
>>>>> questions before publishing.  I do not think they have a clue how such
>>>>> any
>>>>> article impacts the country negatively.
>>>>>
>>>>> The audience of what is published locally is not only Kenyan people who
>>>>> read it.  We must love our country and stop hoping that someone else
>>>>> will
>>>>> change our image.  The sad part is that all of what has been read
>>>>> throughout
>>>>> the world are all lies.  Some people reading this may never know that
>>>>> it
>>>>> was
>>>>> not true.
>>>>>
>>>>> This what I meant to say that negativity will fail us and we should
>>>>> check
>>>>> every barking dog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ndemo
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerryR
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Catherine Adeya <elizaslider at yahoo.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:36:34
>>>>> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 10/11 of 12- BPO Discussions, Strengths and
>>>>>        Weaknesses (Observations from USA and UK); and Trends and Niches
>>>>>
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