[kictanet] Day 10/11 of 12- BPO Discussions, Strengths andWeaknesses (Observations from USA and UK); and Trends and Niches

Walubengo J jwalu at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 15 13:15:23 EAT 2009 

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:

> The few potential investors I met this morning are
> distgusted with what  they see.  Allow me to request my brother Linus who > is  on this list to  remove the picture please.

Bwana PS,

Whereas I/we understand where you are coming from, you have to be careful that tomorrows headlines dont read " PS orders media website shutdown"...

Maybe the media should explore having different editions of their publications, I mean truly we dont have to always washing our dirty linen all the time. But if we have to, lets at least keep it local.

This headlines do cause panic even to Kenyan diaspora, so one can imagine what it does to non-kenyans...

walu.

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:

> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 10/11 of 12- BPO Discussions, Strengths andWeaknesses (Observations from USA and UK); and Trends and Niches
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 1:37 PM
> Listers,
> Please take a moment and see what is on-line from our
> papers today and
> understand what I am trying to say.  You cannot
> convince even our people
> in the diaspora to invest in Kenya.  Compare that with
> what SA has on the
> web from their papers.  They have managed their
> violence especially on
> foreingners well even as it continues.  We are showing
> machetes to
> investors without critical analysis and how we see the
> future of our
> country.
> 
> The few potential investors I met this morning are
> distgusted with what
> they see.  Allow me to request my brother Linus who is
> on this list to
> remove the picture please.
> 
> 
> Ndemo.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Dr. Ndemo,
> >
> > I stopped watching news in the local media a while
> back. Too much negative
> > stuff affecting the peace and tranquility I expect in
> my home.
> >
> > There is a lot of crime in S.A. yet the country is
> geared to host the
> > World
> > Cup come next year. How are they working to make it a
> success?
> >
> > I support you fully. It is high time we Kenyans
> started to think
> > nationally
> > as  a nation. To  look at the positives. We
> live in a real world and
> > things
> > will not always be perfect in any country, Kenya
> included.
> > Therefore we should promote the positive aspects of
> Kenya first before we
> > can expect outsiders to support us.
> >
> >
> > Sammy Buruchara
> > CEO NairobiNet Ltd
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kictanet-bounces+sammy=opensystems.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+sammy=opensystems.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> On
> > Behalf Of bitange at jambo.co.ke
> > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:11 PM
> > To: sammy at opensystems.co.ke
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 10/11 of 12- BPO
> Discussions, Strengths
> > andWeaknesses (Observations from USA and UK); and
> Trends and Niches
> >
> > Prof.
> > We should understand the impact of internet
> better.  Our papers are
> > on-line and they contribute the greatest content out
> there.  A potential
> > investor trying to surf the net, gets mostly negative
> information.  I am
> > not against our media but they could do better in
> setting the agenda.  A
> > few examples may help here.
> >
> > It is not only Kenya that has suffered the youth
> bulge.  This is something
> > that has affected countries world over.  The US
> suffered in the 1930's
> > leading the country to get rid of the problem by
> investing heavily on
> > public works and the war.  In China they put much
> of their people into
> > labour intensive public works (roads, energy, ICTs
> ets).  While they did
> > this they also suffered a high rate of crime. 
> This is how the Al Capones
> > came up.  Italy has had a mafia crisis over a
> long period of time but the
> > media there did not only focus on crime.  They
> suggested economic
> > solutions that have helped reduce crime in the south
> go down.  When we
> > write about mungiki, we should also suggest a way
> forward.  We must also
> > create hope for our people because we are all
> responsible for what happens
> > in our land.
> >
> > The recent US elections were all about hope that
> things will change.  Look
> > at the Uhuru Budget.  It was a budget of
> hope.  But read our yesterday
> > papers.  While one Media house attempted to
> create hope.  The other
> > focused on hopelessness - "the devil is in the
> details" - yet for once we
> > were united in hope for our future.  I had
> expected many positive
> > headlines out of the budget but I was
> disappointed.  This is a budget we
> > should have leveraged to create a new Kenya.  A
> Kenya where we all have
> > hope.  It gave us our much a waited new
> constitution.  That we can devolve
> > our resources based on the districts.  That we
> may not need to dismantle a
> > constitution that has relatively served us well for
> more than 40 years.
> > That we may need only Parliament to amend only the
> governance aspects of
> > our constitution as many civilized countries do. 
> This where media had a
> > chance to set the agenda for this country but they
> have yet again wasted
> > the opportunity.  It is not too late for them to
> bring hope.  The Vision
> > 2030 can be achieved if we all agree that it will
> bring the desired
> > change.
> >
> > I am glad we deviated a little but this discussion
> will shape our future
> > policies.  Where we all respect one another.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Ndemo.
> >
> >
> >> Dr. Ndemo,
> >>
> >> You have captured very well the problem with us
> Kenyans. At the same
> >> time,
> >> it is important to acknowledge that we have very
> many people who are
> >> positive and are doing very good things for this
> country. But they are
> >> drowned by the bad elements amongst us. However,
> things will not change
> >> if
> >> we do not make a deliberate change intervention.
> According to me, it
> >> will
> >> be
> >> almost impossible to achieve V2030 with this
> attitude. We must change.I
> >> strongly believe that there is a 4th pillar that
> V2030 conceptualization
> >> missed - NATIONAL COHESION. It is what is required
> to move forward and
> >> fulfil the other plans. We could therefore argue
> that we need to sell
> >> Kenya
> >> to Kenyans before we go out to foreigners.
> Otherwise all the positive
> >> messages that will be put out there in selling
> Kenya to investors by
> >> whoever
> >> (assuming we can get this right in the first
> instance) will soon be
> >> negated
> >> by the bad attitudes that you speak of. And who
> said Kenya must be
> >> developed
> >> by outsiders?
> >>
> >> I hope I have not sounded like a barking dog.
> >>
> >> tim mwololo
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:16 AM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Catherine, some barking dogs are causing
> untold pain to our people.
> >>> Hate
> >>> against Kenyans in Tanzania is at its
> worst.  Irrespective who you are,
> >>> you
> >>> are refered to as Mungiki who is after
> grabbing Tanzanian land.  Whom
> >>> do
> >>> you
> >>> think created this image for our people?
> >>>
> >>> Mungiki is more of any economic crisis in our
> country but our Media has
> >>> refused to link the two.  We lack
> analytical depth in our media houses.
> >>>  What you read is petty fitina. 
> When a media house purpots that "Cable
> >>> lands into financial trouble" do you think
> such media has the interests
> >>> of
> >>> this country at heart?  If they did they
> should have asked the right
> >>> questions before publishing.  I do not
> think they have a clue how such
> >>> any
> >>> article impacts the country negatively.
> >>>
> >>> The audience of what is published locally is
> not only Kenyan people who
> >>> read it.  We must love our country and
> stop hoping that someone else
> >>> will
> >>> change our image.  The sad part is that
> all of what has been read
> >>> throughout
> >>> the world are all lies.  Some people
> reading this may never know that
> >>> it
> >>> was
> >>> not true.
> >>>
> >>> This what I meant to say that negativity will
> fail us and we should
> >>> check
> >>> every barking dog.
> >>>
> >>> Ndemo
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my BlackBerryR
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Catherine Adeya <elizaslider at yahoo.com>
> >>>
> >>> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:36:34
> >>> To: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> >>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 10/11 of 12- BPO
> Discussions, Strengths and
> >>>        Weaknesses
> (Observations from USA and UK); and Trends and Niches
> >>>
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