[kictanet] BPO discussions -Weekend Break.

Sat Jun 6 10:02:02 EAT 2009

Dear Lister,

Thanx for your continued contributions.  I just wish to state that
traditionally and like in all workshops/conferences, we usually use
weekends to "refresh". This means that Listers can belatedly catch up and
post on previous themes while others can chose to go visit the national
parks...

So that means we shall continue the discussions next Monday 8th with
HR/Capacity issues as our theme.

regards.

walu.
> I second that as their comments would be very useful going forward as the
> findings and discussions need to feed into policy.
>
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> ________________________________
> From: "godera at skyweb.co.ke" <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
> To: elizaslider at yahoo.com
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 8:51:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Day 4 of 10- BPO Discussions, Govt Subsidies
>
>
> As a matter of interest, is there anyone in the Vision 2030 team or the
> NESC on
> this list? I would love to hear a comment from them on how they intend to
> work
> with us to wake up this industry.
>
> Gilda Odera
> Quoting Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks Nyaki, i have copied the Statistics on a word document for onward
>> digestion, i was just being loud to sell my point, i enjoy learning from
>> our
>> scholars MM, Waema, Dr Ndemo and many others on the list the discussion
>> is
>> great
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Catherine Adeya
>> <elizaslider at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>> > Barrack,
>> >
>> > The great thing about such a forum is there is no right or wrong
>> answer as
>> > long as you are on topic...one need not be a scholar to make a
>> worthwhile
>> > contribution. Even some of us...so called scholars sometimes fumble in
>> our
>> > responses....I read some of what I wrote yesterday and saw a few
>> errors
>> but
>> > hey I wanted to ensure that I was contributing in a timely manner. The
>> long
>> > and short of what I am trying to say is your contribution below is
>> well
>> > understood and does not require further scholarly elaboration, others
>> will
>> > just tease out issues from it and flesh it out if need be.
>> >
>> > I hope this also helps the many listers out there in cyberspace who
>> would
>> > like to say something but are feeling slightly overwhelmed by these
>> > 'scholars'. Enjoy chatting....KICTANET is your space............
>> >
>> >
>> > Nyaki
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> > *To:* elizaslider at yahoo.com
>> > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> > *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2009 9:03:10 AM
>> > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Day 4 of 10- BPO Discussions, Govt Subsidies
>> >
>> > Walu, and fellow Listers, i think the clause that requires local
>> investors
>> > to on twenty percent might be counter productive for an emerging
>> market
>> such
>> > as Kenya at this point in time, i like d Dr Ndemo's suggestion of
>> requiring
>> > the companies to list on the stock exchange so that locals can then
>> own a
>> > chunk of it, remember Kenya is a "small market" to most multinationals
>> no
>> > wonder large companies prefer dealing with clusters MEA and the likes.
>> On
>> > another note Barclays Bank had a program where they were taking
>> members of
>> > their business club to Hong Kong and the likes, fellow listers we
>> should
>> not
>> > underestimate the Value of EXPOSURE, Kenya has a well educated
>> workforce
>> > but they just need to be tickled by exposure and you will be surprised
>> at
>> > the outcome, could someone help me elaborate on this it may not be
>> scholarly
>> > enough !
>> >
>> > On 6/5/09, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> -Dear Listers,
>> >>
>> >> I must thank all for your insights over the last few days.  I like
>> the
>> >> challenge that asked whether we are "over-regulating" an emerging
>> market
>> as
>> >> the "answer" to the question on if we have legal and regulatory gaps.
>> >> Listers are encouraged to challenge and not just answer the
>> questions.
>> Other
>> >> arising issues included where we want to play within the BPO Value
>> Chain,
>> >> the Impact of the Political (in-)stability, the need to map our Data
>> >> Protection laws to those in the target markets are just but some of
>> the
>> >> highlights I picked - and by all means this is NOT exhaustive as am
>> still
>> >> reading through the contributions.
>> >>
>> >> But today we need to open the theme on Government subsidies. The
>> >> Researchers found the S.Africa and India had elaborate subsidy
>> provisions
>> >> for the sector that included Tax Holidays and Exemptions, Investment
>> Grants
>> >> to BPO operators, Training Subsidies, One-stop shop for Corporate
>> Company
>> >> Registrations that could be 100% foreign owned, etc. The Researchers
>> noted
>> >> the unique Mauritius case which had similar incentives but eventually
>> >> abolished most of them arguing that they were more beneficial to the
>> >> Operators than to the Nation.
>> >>
>> >> On the Kenyan front - other than the not so succesfull Govt Bandwidth
>> >> subsidies for Operators, very little in terms of incentives was
>> available
>> to
>> >> BPO Operators. It was noted that the BPO operators had to be within
>> the
>> EPZ
>> >> in order to enjoy the subsidies other EPZ corporates operates - the
>> problem
>> >> being that most BPO operaters exist outside the EPZ area. Whats more,
>> BPO
>> >> operators had to pay additional charges to be registered by the CCK
>> >> (Regulator) and should be at least 20% locally owned.
>> >>
>> >> Qtn6:  What incentives / subsidies should the government provide to
>> BPO
>> >> operators?  What of the clause requiring 20% Local shareholding in
>> foreign
>> >> companies - is it prohibitive or helpful?
>> >>
>> >> Floor is open comments.
>> >>
>> >> walu.
>> >> Encl: Synthesis 2:- Subsidies and Incentives
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> > --
>> > Barrack O. Otieno
>> > ISSEN CONSULTING
>> > Tel:
>> > +254721325277
>> > +254733206359
>> > http://projectdiscovery.or.ke
>> > To give up the task of reforming society is to give up ones
>> responsibility
>> > as a free man.
>> > Alan Paton, South Africa
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Barrack O. Otieno
>> ISSEN CONSULTING
>> Tel:
>> +254721325277
>> +254733206359
>> http://projectdiscovery.or.ke
>> To give up the task of reforming society is to give up ones
>> responsibility
>> as a free man.
>> Alan Paton, South Africa
>>
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