[kictanet] My Take: Affordable computers-remember eMaddo?

Sun Aug 30 13:48:02 EAT 2009

Walu, there was a high profile National ICT exhibtion / week  two years ago
hosted by ICT Village.com i remember meeting an old Lady who had come all
the way from Vihiga as we walked around with her and passed by the e-maddo
stand, we inquired about the cost and she really complained bitterly (It was
around 40 K) if i wasnt wrong, she felt this was exploitative (haki yetu), i
am not sure how e-maddo was received by the market, from what you are saying
Walu it appears to be another "Nyayo pioneer" sort of project, am told that
in chinese the same character is used for opportunities and challenges,
within some some of this failed projects there lies an opportunity to do
better, why for instance would Kenyans prefer brands over locally assmbled
machines?, Prof Waema talked of TCO, the lady i met complained about the
cost vis avis that of refurbs, something to ponder about
Lakini bado Najivunia kuwa Mkenya, in fact am a member :-)

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

> local capacity development for Assembling/manufacturing PCs?  Indeed there
> is (was?) such an initiative started 4yrs ago between the Kenyan ICT
> Ministry and local Universities - under the brand name eMaddo Project.  SU,
> UoN, JKUAT and Multimedia Univ College were all signatories...with CCK
> throwing in the seed money.
>
> But today I am not sure if any of the Universities are still in this
> project. But I can tell you that we bought quite a number of these locally
> assembled eMaddo Computers and 3yrs down the road they are still working and
> are as strong as the branded ones (Dell, HP etc)
>
> walu.
>
> --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Mwololo Tim <timwololo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Mwololo Tim <timwololo at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] My Take: Affordable computers
> > To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:49 PM
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I have scanned the inputs made yesterday on used computers,
> > although I could not go through all of them.
> >
> > In my view, the problem is beyond new/locally assembled PCs
> > against imported re-conditioned computers. The biggest
> > problem is that of a time bomb in terms of e-waste. A study
> > I led on e-waste in 2007 showed that at that time, Kenya
> > generated at least 3,000 tons of e-waste every year (a copy
> > is attached). I am sure you can see the problem if you
> > consider a number of years. It gets worse if you consider
> > that the number of PCs are growing every year. From this
> > point of view, a policy is necessary on e-waste.
> >
> >
> > A second issue is the life of an assembled clone vis-a-vis
> > that of re-conditioned computer. Has anyone done any study?
> > Can they share the results. I bought many locally assembled
> > PCs and many of the them developed lots of problems and
> > their life in a busy user environment is relatively low. I
> > did this long time ago and I cannot recall the average life.
> > The cost of ownership kept on increasing. I have also tried
> > re-conditioned brand computers and I am monitoring their
> > life. I am tempted to do a study.
> >
> >
> > The other issue is developing local capacity for ICT
> > technology development. Many countries started from the
> > assembly route with a strategy to develop local capacity. Do
> > we really have a strategy? Putting 25% duty on used
> > computers is not a strategy. It would make sense if it was
> > part of a comprehensive strategy either aimed at developing
> > local capacity for technology development or something. It
> > does not even start to address our e-waste problem.
> >
> >
> > A few words on a staurday afternoon.
> >
> > tim waema
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM,
> > Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Good points being raised here the
> > more reason as to why we need a multistakeholder approach
> > to address the issue by finding common ground, we cannot
> > demonise used computers in a blanket manner, more so when
> > ICT is a critical component in Vision 2030, they are
> > certainly playing a critical role, as it turns out
> > "affordability" is ambiguous
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 29,
> > 2009 at 9:51 AM, Bildad Kagai <billkagai at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Gakuru Alex wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Why Bill, when all I am doing is to protect those your
> > rights you used
> >
> > to sell every one of your previously owned
> > computing/internet
> >
> > connection equipment that you 'dumped on innocent
> > souls':-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Good point Alex.
> >
> > After two years of aggressive business I will book an
> > appointment with Ambassador Kiplagat and confess to my role
> > in contributing to e-waste and why my role is part of FUTURE
> > historical injustice for future generations. That will give
> > me a clean conscience knowing that I can mess as much I can
> > after all the truth justice and reconciliation commission
> > will forgive me for that. Lets plunder our Kenya....justice
> > is in the offing.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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