[kictanet] Seacom goes live- wait for TEAMS

[Onyango Hatari]

Billy

I would rather you address the issues raised instead of sideshows. We are all in ICT and the businessmen must listen also to the consumers ndugu. Thats when we will have a full society.

Lets not have an apartheid here.

OH

> -----Original Message-----
> From: billkagai at gmail.com
> Sent: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:29:19 -0400
> To: onyango at inbox.com
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Seacom goes live- wait for TEAMS
> 
> Maybe its time to split these list. Businesses and Civil Society
> actors. They will never see things the same.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Gakuru Alex<alexgakuru.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> online responses
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Michael Joseph<MJoseph at safaricom.co.ke>
>> wrote:
>>> I think the allegations and language used on this list really
>>> discourage
>>> real informative comment.
>> 
>> If it may assist, my online policy is to disregard ungrounded comments
>> from "only virtual" annonymii - never seen in real-life for it's
>> awfully tempting to hide behind anonymous e-IDs solely to pelt quite
>> unpleasant words.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Not one shareholder will want to price themselves out of the market
>>> and, as
>>> another commentator mentioned earlier, the first to market with
>>> competitive
>>> prices will gain the most.
>> 
>> Proof that competition works. Regulator has indicated their future
>> attention to strengthening competition environment and consumer
>> protection. I am comfortable with that- now it's just to ensure it
>> happens.
>> 
>>> I broke my silence on this subject a few days ago and I regret it now
>>> as
>>> mostly the comments have been somewhat impolite, to put it mildly. I
>>> will
>>> refrain in future.
>> 
>> Retreat?  - a bad move~) Engage "reasonables" and ignore "outrageous"
>> 
>> walu:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Competition?
>>> 
>>> 3 cables does NOT = competition.
>>> 
>> 
>> add Orange will soon also have their own from Indian Ocean islands.
>> add O3B, We'll get somewhere...
>> 
>>> As Waudo mentioned elsewhere in his posts, the big boys and girls
>>> sitting on
>>> TEAMs board are the same ones on SEACOM, EASSy and most likely anything
>>> else
>>> likely to land in Mombasa in the near future.
>>> 
>>> Basically you are looking at a conducive\cartel environment for fixing
>>> prices - think of our oil industry. Yes you have competition in the
>>> name of
>>> Agip, Total, Caltex, etc but has that brought down prices for gas?
>>> 
>>> Probably am being paranoid but I am waiting for the case study where
>>> public
>>> good won over private profits...maybe it will happen in another 4
>>> months as
>>> the PS said.  And when it happens it should  should not be the
>>> misleading by
>>> 1-5% price drops.  Ideally for the TEAMs
>>> (tax-payers) cable you should be asking for the less than 100USD per MB
>>> prices that have been floated around over the recent years. And that
>>> should
>>> be per month rates NOT the punitive per byte of download rates.
> 
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