[kictanet] Lets stick to the ICT Policy Agenda

[John Walubengo]

Shem, Alex et al,

Am not sure if this is the right forum to discuss or speculate on who is the bigger thief within the ICT industry. And if someone wishes to go in the direction, they must do so on conclusive evidence or at least try to find a way to tie (disguise?) that discussion towards ICT Policies  - e.g. what ICT Policies need to be in place to pre-empt such recurrence.

If we dont stick to these guidelines, I foresee a lot of members un-subscribing...starting with me.

walu.
By the Way: I do love juicy stories, I just dont think that this is the space for them.

--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by Foreigners
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "New Vision List" <newvisionkenya at yahoogroups.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 10:41 AM
> Gakuru,
>  
> I took the State to court 4 years ago; the matter has never
> been heard. Unfortunately, being in court, it even can't
> be discussed openly. They control the courts. If there is
> anything more you know than I do, I would like to hear it.
> So/And that would be a wrong excuse not to ask queries.
>  
> Shem
> 
> --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Alex Gakuru
> <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by
> Foreigners
> To: shemochuodho at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:58 AM
> 
> Did the pipeline matter end to cast the first stone?  
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Shem Ochuodho
> <shemochuodho at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth
> Owned by Foreigners
> > To: alex.gakuru at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 8:30 AM
> > I hope PS Ndemo is/has been watching the proceedings
> in
> > Parliament (re Hon. Kimunya Censor Debate re Grand
> Regency,
> > Safaricom IPO, Telkom Kenya, etc!!!).
> > 
> > Shem
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 6/29/08, wesley kiriinya
> > <kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > From: wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re:
> [NewVisionKenya]
> > Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by
> Foreigners
> > To: "Shem Ochuodho"
> > <shemochuodho at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 8:30 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "...Way forward, mobilize resources the
> Transcentury
> > way and buy out all that which is owned by
> foreiners. 
> > They did not steal what they own.  They simply caught
> us
> > napping."
> > 
> > Mmmhhh makes me wonder about this Grand Regency thing.
> And
> > many other things.
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 6/22/08, bitange at jambo.co.ke
> > <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> > 
> > From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re:
> [NewVisionKenya]
> > Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by
> Foreigners
> > To: kiriinya2000 at yahoo.com
> > Cc: "Kazi Afrika"
> > <kaziafrika at googlegroups.com>, "KICTAnet
> ICT
> > Policy Discussions"
> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 11:01 AM
> > 
> > Although in telcom sector the law requiores local
> > partnership, what the research
> > is telling us is not a problem but an opportunity that
> we
> > must take advantage
> > of.  The Tea estates referred to here have changed
> hands
> > several times.  It is
> > therefore
> >  imperative that when they float them, we shall
> mobilize
> > resources to
> > buy them out.
> > 
> > It is not enough to complain and leave the issue to
> die. 
> > There is need to
> > educate our people that in a capitalist economy, there
> are
> > exit routs to pride
> > ourselves with ownweship of our properties.  Some
> advamced
> > countries own far
> > less than 31 percent of their assets.  
> > 
> > We are fortunate that the investment bug has hit Kenya
> if
> > Safaricom IPO is
> > anything to go by.  Unless we want to radically change
> our
> > economic orientation
> > with respect to ownership, which I know it is not
> possible,
> > there is nothing to
> > fuss about.
> > 
> > Way forward, mobilize resources the Transcentury way
> and
> > buy out all that which
> > is owned by foreiners.  They did not steal what they
> own. 
> > They simply caught us
> > napping.
> > 
> > Ndemo
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