[kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill: Is media overacting?

Sun Dec 14 23:04:18 EAT 2008

Good people,

At this point, finger pointing does not help and really "two wrongs does
not make a right" because tempers are going high and Bill established what
i was driving at, things could get back like before and you dont want
that.

Please lets appeal to the voice of reasoning and apply measures that would
retract this track because all you need is like what happened in Greece
the other day, a police officer deliberately or not shot a teenager and
that country has not known peace.

For Kenya, we dont even have the luxury of the Greece situation given the
legacy so please i would put my weight behind Bill's proposals below, lets
move quickly to calm tempers and defuse the tension.

I left Nairobi this morning for Accra and trust me, the atmosphere was not
good for my liking.

Eric here

> Wainaina/Alice et al,
>
> 1. How can Kictanet help package the following for consumption in the
> public
> domain??
> 2. How can stakeholders in this forum help guide this paradigm
> shift...i.e...that there is a different school of thought that cares about
> the rest of the bill and is willing to champion dialogue rather than
> fighting the Media??
> 3. At Mediacorp, we can support Kictanet with 1/2page space in a leading
> daily (if need be) to pioneer dialogue and consensus building activities.
> We
> believe that kictanet can help cool temparatures before our businesses are
> affected for the second time this year.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Wainaina Mungai
> <wainaina at madeinkenya.org>
> wrote:
>> To add to Alice's point, it is clear the media is determined to
>> exclude content that would inform and empower the public...if the said
>> content does not serve short-term interests of the media owners. The
>> freedom of the media should not be at the expense of public interests.
>>
>> For instance, it is common knowledge that many objective and
>> professional editors find themselves at the mercy of their employers
>> whenever a news piece does not favour a friend of the owner. That is
>> how we ended up with a media with blood in it's hands during the
>> post-election crisis. It's all about the biased reporting the media
>> has resorted to in fighting the Bill.
>>
>> So who should determine the direction and nature of content? An
>> independent government regulator or the media owners? Maybe a mix of
>> the two would be a step forward...which is what the amendments would
>> result in.
>>
>> If the President passes the Bill, the big change for media would be on
>> matters of programming codes. The other big issue of Section 88 is
>> neither here nor there because failure by the President to ascent will
>> leave us with the same provision under KCA (1998).
>>
>> Wainaina
>>
>> On 12/14/08, alice <alice at apc.org> wrote:
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Perhaps the media could start by reporting accurately. Some of the
>>> sections the media find so offensive already exist in the 1998
>>> communications act. So why not present the  big full  picture to all
>>> and
>>> especially the public?
>>>
>>>
>>> alice
>>>
>>> (Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any of the
>>> organizations I am affiliated with)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> dmakali at yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Wainaina
>>>> I can't argue against your sources but am certain that stage of black
> out
>>>> for mps hasn't been reached at all. In fact we are meeting tue to
> evaluate
>>>> exactly the import of the passage of that bill and bring every1 on the
>>>> same page.
>>>> Of course blacking out not just some 25 mps but all is very much a
>>>> possible line of action. And for good reason- these mps did not
>>>> consider
>>>> ANY of the changes we proposed. That gang approach doesn't lend itself
> to
>>>> decent engagement frm the media. They have abused their power and
> ignored
>>>> our views, not reasonably but glibly.
>>>> I am totally in agrment with thoz who argue the broadcast media needs
>>>> regulation, because it is true. I don't even share some defensive
>>>> views
>>>> about ownership held by moa- I see no value in nmg getting more radio
>>>> or
>>>> tv frequencies for eg coz they already have too many, or royal media
>>>> having all thoz frequencies. Its simply obscene. But that is a diff
> story
>>>> frm govt getting into micro management of media conent or , the
>>>> minister
>>>> having power to raid and confiscate equipment or occupy or take over a
>>>> media house. There was no emergency wen michuki used mercenaries to
>>>> raid
>>>> standard.
>>>> Plus the ethical issues being raised about content can and are already
>>>> addressed under the media act. The worst thing you want is to invite
> govt
>>>> fiat into content matters. You will rue the day you get a dictatorial
>>>> govt. Examples are many.
>>>> Similarly, how do you allow the minister to give directions to a
>>>> commission that's supposd to be independent? He shud take its advice
>>>> not
>>>> rubber stamp his decisions. And how do you have a commission appointed
>>>> solely by the minister without any guidelines? Criteria to follow?
>>>> Finally did you see the clause about kbc? Nothing about its roles, and
>>>> obligations? Even the principal act is beta!
>>>> Well, wainaina and other kictanets, it would be useful to speak to
>>>> these
>>>> issues even as you condemn the media for obviously lopsided reporting
> and
>>>> wailing.
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina at madeinkenya.org>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:53:55
>>>> To: <dmakali at yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy
>>>> Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications (amendment) Bill:
> Is
>>>> media overacting?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I am very much involved the media and you & I know that it was agreed
>>>> that the Action Plan includes a "blackout to..." as well as all the
>>>> issues I indicated.The point is clear. I have told the truth relating
>>>> to the content of the Action Plan.
>>>>
>>>> The question of execution is separate. Ndemo having been on K24 is
>>>> does not change much but it is not in line with the Action
>>>> Plan....meaning, we need to complement K24 for that step.
>>>>
>>>> Let's be honest in our submissions especially concerning such
> revelations.
>>>>
>>>> Wainaina
>>>>
>>>> On 12/14/08, dmakali at yahoo.com <dmakali at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's not true. You have obviously exaggerated in trying to put
>>>>> across
>>>>> your
>>>>> cheap propaganda. Ndemo was on k24 this morning and he was of course
> not
>>>>> opposing the bill. Plus, you should ask yourself, who has come out to
>>>>> support the bill and not been given airtime.
>>>>> Yes, the media is campaigning, but it has not yet agreed or employed
> any
>>>>> of
>>>>> the strategies you have listed. Their time is coming.  And we don't
> need
>>>>> to
>>>>> go to previous regimes to show brutal attacks against the media. The
>>>>> worst
>>>>> have taken place under the current regime!
>>>>> You have more to be grateful than disgusted with the media. Be just a
>>>>> little
>>>>> more reflective and considerate otherwise your diabolical hatred of
>>>>> the
>>>>> media lacks foundation.
>>>>> David
>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: "Wainaina Mungai" <wainaina at madeinkenya.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:08:09
>>>>> To: <dmakali at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [ke-internetusers] Kenya communications
>>>>> (amendment)
>>>>>     Bill: Is media overacting?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The truth is that the "supporters" you see on TV, hear on radio, read
>>>>> in papers are not by accident. The Media Owners Association (MoA)
>>>>> crafted a campaign strategy that includes the "media blackout to all
>>>>> MPs who supported the Bill and The Ministry of Information &
>>>>> Communications".
>>>>>
>>>>> According to persons privy to the media campaign strategy, we have a
>>>>> big problem here and it's about time Kenyans were told the objective
>>>>> truth. Unfortunately, the people who own the media houses are
>>>>> determined to use every possible means to ensure the Bill is not
>>>>> signed. You will not hear a supporter of the Bill being given
>>>>> coverage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> The strategy is clearly not intended to yield an objective result.
>>>>> The
>>>>> intention is to shape public opinion even through biased reporting.
>>>>> The strategy includes:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Ensure President dioesn't sign the Bill, by publicly petitioning
> him.
>>>>> 2. Take advantage of Jamhuri Day to show images of raids conducted by
>>>>> previous regimes.
>>>>> 3. Run a media campaign that includes 'same headline' in all papers
>>>>> and similar headlines on electronic media.
>>>>> 4. Shape public opinion through campains and show that the Bill is
>>>>> unconstitutional...etc etc
>>>>> 5. Blackout all supporters of the Bill, Ministry & only invite civil
>>>>> society players who support the interests of the media. Keep watching
>>>>> and you'll notice the biased reporting.
>>>>> 6. The coverage of the issue in the weekend papers (circulation) is
>>>>> also part of the strategy. This will not stop until the President
>>>>> yields to the Media's agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>> The media has the right to petition the President but the problem
>>>>> with
>>>>> their campaign is that Media Owners have actually agreed not to cover
>>>>> the issue objectively. They have conspired to shape public opinion by
>>>>> all possible means including excluding all those who have a different
>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> In doing so, they demonstrate the need for legislative regulation.
>>>>> The
>>>>> nation is now at the mercy of the media and the public will only be
>>>>> fed with one side of the story.
>>>>>
>>>>> Over to you.
>>>>> Wainaina
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/14/08, Kinuthia Muchane <muchanek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Habari,
>>>>>> Maybe the media is overacting, maybe the the MPs are wrong... But
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> interesting thing about this issue is the timidity of the MPs, to
> begin
>>>>>> with, in the news all I am hearing are our dear elected
> representatives
>>>>>> vowing their undying support for all sorts of freedom, including
>>>>>> that
> of
>>>>>> Press, so my question is, isn't there one, single MP who supported
>>>>>> passing of the Bill who can come out in defence of his or her stand?
> Or
>>>>>> is it because they always pander to the Press, they do not want to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> seen in 'bad' light .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, most of us take what we hear on the radio or
>>>>>> watch
> on
>>>>>> TV as gospel truth, and the unfortunate fact of life is that the
>>>>>> majority of us have no other source of  information, or do not seek
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> avenues of
>>>>>> getting information, a fact very well
>>>>>> known by members of the so called "Fourth Estate". So when they
>>>>>> drench
>>>>>> us with "details" about the dangers of the bill's amendment no
>>>>>> matter
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> skewed their
>>>>>> opinion is, we will believe them hook, line and sinker!
>>>>>> If you ask me, in a country like ours with a very shaky social,
>>>>>> political and economic foundation, these merchants of
>>>>>> "information" should be very closely and regularly monitored, a
>>>>>> Radio
>>>>>> Mille Collines can happen here very easily...
>>>>>> In any case, ain't all these media 'houses' just commercial
> enterprises
>>>>>> out to make a tidy profit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kinuthia...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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