[kictanet] Fwd: SV: [AfrISPA.Discuss] Undersea cableplantangled in acrimony inSouth Africa

[Ronald King'ang'i]

I concur lets keep all discussion civilized 

King'ang'i

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: SV: [AfrISPA.Discuss] Undersea cableplantangled
in acrimony inSouth Africa

I know that I am usually hard hitting at my opposition
discussants, but I am feel expressions used below are
uncalled for no matter how opposed the writer's view
is. 
 
--- Joseph Manthi <jmanthi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sean,
> You of all people, a man living in England, reaping
> wealth from the
> ignorance of Africans, should not be making comments
> like these. You
> do not want Africans to realize what is going on. Do
> not wake a
> sleeping giant. It is high time we started taking
> care of our own. Why
> do you think that what SA is doing is "Rubbish"?
> Doesn't this
> honourable minister have the right to protect SA
> assets from nyangaus
> like you?
> 
> I wish every African government is like South Africa
> where we can weed
> off foreign ownership of African assets.
> 
> Bravo SA.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On 9/13/07, Sean Moroney <seanm at aitecafrica.com>
> wrote:
> > Yes, the security angle struck me as typical
> Newspeak from a regime that can
> > get away with rubbish like that where there is no
> effective opposition. How
> > like their Apartheid forebears they sound!
> >
> > Sean Moroney
> > Chairman
> > AITEC Africa
> > seanm at aitecafrica.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
>
kictanet-bounces+seanm=aitecafrica.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >
>
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+seanm=aitecafrica.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> On
> > Behalf Of Kai Wulff
> > Sent: 12 September 2007 12:54
> > To: seanm at aitecafrica.com
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: SV: [AfrISPA.Discuss]
> Undersea cable
> > plantangled in acrimony inSouth Africa
> >
> > I second that!
> >
> > It is comforting to know that SA will provide
> security to Africa by
> > insisting on a majority ownership of the cables!
> >
> > I am sure this attitude will change once Kenya
> receives capacity @ less than
> >
> > USD 100,- per M ..
> >
> > Kai
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > To: <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke>
> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 14:44
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: SV: [AfrISPA.Discuss]
> Undersea cable plan
> > tangled in acrimony inSouth Africa
> >
> >
> > I used to have a difficult time explaining to
> fellow Kenyans that it was
> > very difficult dealing with our brothers in SA
> because at every meeting
> > goal posts kept on shifting.  Perharps now
> everybody understands that the
> > veto power in the NEPAD protocol was a control
> tool.  Below please find
> > additional material.
> >
> > Ndemo.
> >
> >
> > Cables require local ownership BY DAMARIA SENNE &
> CHRISTELLE DU TOIT
> > <mailto:damaria at itweb.co.za> [ Johannesburg, 10
> September 2007 ]
> >
> > South Africa requires that all undersea cables
> landing here be majority
> > owned by South Africans, says communications
> Minister Ivy
> > Matsepe-Casaburri.
> >
> > Speaking at the Southern African
> Telecommunications Networks and
> > Applications Conference (Satnac) 2007, in
> Mauritius, this morning,
> > Matsepe-Casaburri said government was happy with
> indications that
> > investors plan to land cables in the country.
> > However, she will soon announce new landing
> guidelines that require that
> > "all cables " landing in SA be majority owned by
> South Africans, she said.
> >
> > The guidelines will also be consistent with SA's
> foreign policy and take
> > the security of the country, and the African
> continent, into
> > consideration, she said.
> > "Every cable landing or leaving SA should
> incorporate in it the Nepad [New
> > Partnership for Africa's Development] Broadband
> Infrastructure Network."
> > Security measures are important, given the state
> of our insecure world,
> > she added.
> >
> > Matsepe-Casaburri said that she instructed Dep.of
> Communications
> > Dir-General Lyndall Shope-Mafole to propose the
> landing guidelines to the
> > Interim Inter-Governmental Assembly for
> discussion. She also noted that
> > her department studied the communications
> regulations of other countries
> > when drafting the landing guidelines, ensuring
> they are consistent with
> > international trends.
> >
> > Determination expected
> > BMI-TechKnowledge senior analyst Richard Hurst
> says the implications of
> > the ownership stipulations are that "those who do
> end up rolling out
> > cables will have to do so via partnerships". He
> cites Seacom and Neotel's
> > interaction as an example of this, where "Neotel
> basically would control
> > the landing rights of Seacom in SA".
> > According to Hurst, "government is trying to hedge
> its bets", but the
> > stipulations set out by the minister have
> generally been expected. He says
> > South African companies should benefit from the
> directives, as should the
> > consumer.
> > "It should open up access to those cables and
> bring prices down." He adds
> > that, as the international community moves towards
> always-on broadband, SA
> > will also increasingly need high-speed capacity.
> However he reiterates:
> > "The more bandwidth we have, the better."
> >
> > Investor support
> > Meanwhile, Matsepe-Casaburri said SA was convinced
> it was on the right
> > path to break away from the Eassy (Eastern Africa
> Submarine Cable System)
> > cable project and support the Nepad Broadband
> Infrastructure Network, as
> > well as initiating its own undersea cable systems.
> >
> > She said there was strong support from potential
> investors in the Nepad
> > Broadband  (?) Infrastructure Network. "Instead of
> people running away
> > from us, we have a lot of support from investors."
> > SA and other African governments broke away from
> the Eassy project because
> > larger operators taking part in the initiative
> bought such large
> > quantities of capacity that there would never be
> fair access for smaller
> > operators, she noted.
> >
> > EASSY project was not in line with the Nepad
> objective, which was to
> > facilitate fair and open access for all telecoms
> providers to lower the
> > cost of telecoms on the continent, she said. She
> noted that SA's
> > Parliament had ratified the Nepad Broadband
> Infrastructure Network
> > protocol.
> >
> >
> > > fyi from the AfrISPA discuss list....
> > >
> > >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > >> From: "Anders Comstedt" <anders at ssvl.kth.se>
> 
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