[kictanet] Faith in local web hosting
robert yawe
robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Nov 28 08:24:02 EAT 2007
End user ---> Telkom ---> ISP ---> KDN --> ISP --> Telkom --> end user
Do the math
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
KEnya
Tel: +254722511225
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Sent: Monday, 26 November, 2007 1:19:30 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Faith in local web hosting
Strange!
I thought this is what we do since 4 years! A
Rack Space, good enough for TBs of hosted Webspace is USD 250,- per month. The
KIXP link is on fiber and international bandwidth can be bought
separately!
Rgds
Kai
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Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007
12:29
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Faith in local
web hosting
Hi Eric and Washington,
There is another way to look at
this. Why is it cheaper overseas? the obvious answer is that bandwidth there
is local. In which case the hosting companies are not charged high fees for
bandwidth. The infact primarily pay for peering with other networks. In our
case we are yet to give hosting companies access to the IXP.
One
way to solve this is for ISPs to provide an "unbundled" hosting service;
a)
Local part $x per MB
b) International part $x per MB
c) Rack Space
$x
With such a setup it is much easier for webhosting companies to
emerge and be very creative and at the same time compete with international
players. This would make the business case better for most hosting business
and they would not have to pay the high costs. Right now the high bandwidth
cost is still paid for by the consumer since they still have to access the
internationally hosted sites via the ISP.
Joe Mucheru
On Nov 26, 2007 7:48 AM, Eric Osiakwan <eric at afrispa.org>
wrote:
Dear Mr. Washington,
You have stated the obvious which is the challenge but let me try to
share some light on how to solve the problem.
It is really a chicken an egg situation, the localhosting business
would develop based on demand but like you said demand is relative to
cost.
However in the interest of developing our countries and continent if
we all commit to having country code top level domain (in this case .ke)
and host them locally, the demand would trigger supply.
On the other hand if the local entrepreneurs can invest in
infrastructure and based on market study provide competitive rates (with
the generic TLDs) then again the supply could trigger the demand.
Having said that, i have noticed something under the sun, which is
that for some reason African just dont like using what other Africans
produce so in some ways the former strategy would work better if we deal
with the attitudinal change.
Eric here
On 26 Nov 2007, at 08:35, Odhiambo Washington
wrote:
On Nov 26, 2007 8:03 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi all,
I have raised this issue before when I did a
search and found out that the
CCK web site was hosted overseas and thus how
can we expect them to monitor
the service quality levels of the
ISP's.
On Sunday I visited the Kibaki web site, I
experienced unstable audio
streaming so I decided to find out where the
site was hosted, yes you guest
it overseas. The other 2
presidential candidates web sites are no better
they are not locally hosted.
Is this a reflection of who the targets of
this web sites are?
The Kibaki site is developed by one 3Mice, if
I remember right, which has
some association with newly appointed ICT
Board Managing Director Kokubo.
Regards
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
KEnya
It's not the faith the people have in local
hosting, but rather the
cost factor. Last time I looked at this web
hosting biz, one company
was charging KES 1,000+VAT per month, which was
what was though to be
competitive. Another one entered into the fray
with hype about reduced
costing charges, but I am not sure how much
business they managed to
pick. All the same, their charges did not
compare with what is charged
internationally (I mean in Europe and the
US).
Websites is not something that has caught up
with many Kenyans,
otherwise the volumes would help sustain such
businesses locally.
I believe the lack of volumes is one of the
factors that makes
entities like 3Mice to host overseas. Top-notch
Kenyan techies have
been hosting their Blog with blogspot
(overseas). Bandwidth costs is
another. In Europe and the US, individuals can
afford to connect
10MBps in their kitchens while in Kenya, that
kind of bandwidth can
only be purchased by ISPs.
One last question though: Do you know any
reliable webhosting company
that hosts it's websites locally, and has
reliable and efficient
access to those websites? If there is one, they
are not marketing
themselves enough.
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Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
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