[kictanet] Holding our Leaders Accountable

Thu May 24 16:02:07 EAT 2007

--- Judy Okite <judyokite at gmail.com> wrote:

> In the next 7 months,one of these guys is gonig to be the
> President of
> Kenya....

Judy- at the risk of sparking off a NON-ICT debate...I
can't help saying that the above statement maybe a little
bit premature...but Otherwise I do agree with the rest of
your submission.

walu.

--- Judy Okite <judyokite at gmail.com> wrote:

> Chelimo,
> 
> The future is ICT and ICT is the future....its not
> something that you pray
> it goes away........Is it too difficult to be humble/open
> minded to  say 'Am
> not all that knowledgeable,in this arena,but I would be
> more confortable
> with a discussion,since we are both going to be learning
> from each
> other,than an interview!!'
> In the next 7 months,one of these guys is gonig to be the
> President of
> Kenya...
.so as the ICT sector, what are we looking at in
> the next 5 years,if
> they do not want to mention it or as U said its not of
> importance?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> On 5/24/07, chelimo kenneth <chelimoken at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Everybody seems to be bashing the politicians without
> putting into
> > cognizance their (politicans) work schedule. Their
> diaries are very
> > unpredictable and most of them would give preference to
> issues or functions
> > which could attract votes or popularity. ICT in my view
> is not a vote
> > attracting subject under a debate in Kenya as of now. 
> Remember government
> > is yet to extend ICTs to rural areas and other
> disadvanatged places like
> > slums.The reason is simple given the number of people
> who are ICT literate
> > or compliant in such areas. Most votes are in rural
> areas and slums where
> > people have no iota of  knowledge in  ICT.  Unless ICT
> is popularised first
> > in  these areas and make  people ask their leaders
> including  presidential
> > aspirants about their blueprints on ICT, you will just
> be wasting your time
> > trying to attract political leaders  for an ICT debate.
> After all  over 90
> > per cent of  current legislators either have very basic
> or no knowledge of
> > ICT after all. Good day
> >
> > Ken Chelimo
> > National Coordinator
> > Kenya Network of Telecentres
> >
> > *Brian Longwe <brian at isisweb.nl>* wrote:
> >
> > My personal view is somewhat closer to Harry's. I think
> that it is
> > unproffessional, patronising and disrespectful to
> confirm
> > participation at an event of such stature - and then
> not show up.
> >
> > It is more an issue of holding them accountable as
> opposed to
> > expecting any brilliant and illuminating ideas on how
> to advance the
> > ICT sector. As mentioned in another discussion it would
> have been
> > excellent and would have earned lots of mileage if one
> or some or all
> > had come and simply said "we don't know what needs to
> be done with
> > ICT, can you tell us?" That would have earned them no
> end of
> > admiration and respect.
> >
> > But now they have earned the fury of a spurned ICT
> sector. Let them pay!
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > On May 21, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Harry Hare wrote:
> >
> > > Why are we creating excuses for our so called
> political leaders for
> > > not
> > > showing up for an activity they had all confirmed to
> attend? They are
> > > embarrass themselves in front of cameras everyday and
> deny it the
> > > next day,
> > > why is this different this time?
> > >
> > > Lets do it, lets do it right...no velvet gloves
> please!
> > >
> > > Harry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
>
kictanet-bounces+harry=africanedevelopment.org at kictanet.or.ke
> > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces
> > > +harry=africanedevelopment.org at kictanet.or.ke] On
> > > Behalf Of jamesrege at africaonline.co.ke
> > > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:12 PM
> > > To: harry at africanedevelopment.org
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders
> Accountable
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear e-colleagues,
> > >
> > > As I said last week, our invitees indicated a
> willingness to come
> > > but they
> > > found varied reasons not show up. We must find a way
> to bring them
> > > closer.
> > > As they need to maximize the use of their time and
> also to avoid
> > > public
> > > embarrassment, we need to perhaps do an off-line
> dialogue first
> > > with them
> > > to find out how they want their bread battered. and I
> therefore
> > > agree with
> > > Kanja's idea. Can we beat our drum louder than the
> Kigali's one?
> > >
> > > Jim Rege
> > > Washington, D.C
> > >
> > > Original Message:
> > > -----------------
> > > From: Kanja Waruru kanjawaruru at yahoo.com
> > > Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 02:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
> > > To: jamesrege at africaonline.co.ke
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Holding our Leaders
> Accountable
> > >
> > >
> > > Judy,
> > > My concept was we use a more friendly approach and
> > > remove the pressure from the candidates, its scaring
> > > to be interviewed by ICT professionals under camera
> on
> > > a subject you are not confident about.
> > >
> > > So my 'chai' approach was we call them for a friendly
> > > ICT update over a cup of tea with the main objective
> > > being to bring them up to speed and more confident on
> > > this complex subject. Once they are en-lighted, they
> > > will use ICT on their campaign trails countrywide
> > >
> > > My worry is that if nobody takes the time now to
> bring
> > > them up to speed on ICT issues we may have a heavy
> > > price to pay later on.
> > > Cheers.
> > > Kanja
> > >
> > > --- Judy Okite wrote:
> > >
> > >> Kanja,
> > >>
> > >> This 'chai' concept......how much accountability are
> > >> we talking about?
> > >> a one-on-one based conversation?
> > >> how does it benefit the Nation? at the end of the
> > >> day....how does your
> > >> 'scream' come out? "He told me so?"
> > >> Or probably we could do it,but the 'Githongo' way!
> > >>
> > >> Kind Regards,
> > >>
> > >> On 5/17/07, Kanja Waruru
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear All,
> > >>> Let me comment on this debate.
> > >>>
> > >>> Its obvious that the main reason why our 'guests'
> > >>> didn't show up was that the subject matter was to
> > >>> sophisticated and nobody wanted to expose their
> > >>> ignorance in front of the cameras.
> > >>>
> > >>> My suggestion is we should invite them back not
> > >> for a
> > >>> press debate, and no cameras, but for chai and a
> > >>> friendly chat that would bring them upto speed on
> > >> ICT
> > >>> issues.
> > >>> Regards.
> > >>> Kanja.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> 
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