[kictanet] The Kenya Communications Amendment Bill

Fri Aug 17 10:55:35 EAT 2007

Thanks Alex i appreciate your response your arguments are valid though

On 8/17/07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Barrack,
>
> My apologies if I appeared to harass the Permanent
> Secretary. The gist of my, I believe justified,
> request for information was to know the fate of our
> Safari Park contributions considering that the
> expected legislators could not come because of said
> Parlimentary Procedures.
>
> I needed to know whether we should assume that those
> contributions we made needed to be repeated should an
> opportunity to meet with the Committee present itself
> especially if the ministry could not incorporate them.
>
> I interpret Dr. Ndemo's advice as "they have them,
> because we gave them but now lobby hard yourselves to
> ensure your interests are captured"
>
> I am sufficiently pleased with his reply, his
> voluntary additional information, and await
> confirmation on how the committee sees best fit to
> receive any outstanding   stakeholders' concerns on
> the bill as promised today.
>
> Please understand that I consider myself of the issue
> focussed, not the person, nature and I would seriously
> err to substitute any clause, error, commission, or
> omission with "Bitange Ndemo":)
>
> Have a laughly day!
>
> Alex
>
> --- Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Good effort bwana Ndemo, Alex i bet you understand
> > how our legislators
> > operate take it easy on bwana Ndemo, bwana Ps try
> > your level best to ensure
> > that Stakeholder expectations are met, so far i
> > guess you deserve a pat
> > Regards
> >
> > On 8/16/07, Benjamin Makai <benmakai at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dr.Ndemo
> > > This information is very necessary and important.
> > Kindly could you also
> > > outline to the level or rather phases pertaining
> > the same sir.
> > >
> > > This gives us the the auditable elements of the
> > process for the few whom
> > > may not be aware of the process and yet they may
> > want to shout loundest..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > All is about the welfare of our countr y(personal
> > sentiments and not about
> > > who shouts loundest and in some situations or
> > least solutions. ICT is all
> > > bout solutions and world wide tested and proven
> > best practices)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > *bitange at jambo.co.ke* wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Alex,
> > > I tried to explain how parliament works earlier in
> > the week. We cannot
> > > revise the bill here. We have taken the proposals
> > to the committee for
> > > consideration.
> > >
> > > Luckily today the committee sumoned me to
> > parliament. They want to have a
> > > stakeholder's meeting either on Tuesady or
> > Thursday next week in Mombasa.
> > > I shall confirm this to you tomorrow. Any changes
> > now must go through the
> > > committee since the bill belongs to parliament.
> > You have this window to
> > > make the necessary changes. The safari Park
> > proposals are already with
> > > them but they may decide that they do not want to
> > include them. This is
> > > where we need the stakeholders to push.
> > >
> > > I hope you do not leave this window of opportunity
> > to pass and blame us
> > > later.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > Ndemo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dr. Ndemo,
> > > >
> > > > You invited us to Safari Park Hotel and on
> > information
> > > > and belief, we were coming to meet the
> > Parliament
> > > > Committee. We understood your at the venue
> > explanation
> > > > why they could not come.
> > > >
> > > > However,
> > > >
> > > > Would you be in a position to inform
> > stakeholders what
> > > > to expect of our Safari Park contributions on
> > the
> > > > Kenya Communications Amendment Bill 2007? i.e.
> > does
> > > > the ministry have an "updated"
> > version-considerate of
> > > > expressed concerns? I am made to understand that
> > a
> > > > Bill's mover (who in this case is the Minister)
> > is
> > > > allowed to amend it anytime.
> > > >
> > > > This also would not only help us know where our
> > > > concerns lay but it would also help us take
> > informed
> > > > engagements with the Energy and Communications
> > > > Committee.
> > > >
> > > > I request for this information in view of your
> > emailed
> > > > informative note advising stakeholders on the
> > law
> > > > making processes, advising on the steps, when
> > and
> > > > where to engaging parliamentary committees in
> > the
> > > > process.
> > > >
> > > > Hope to hear from you.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Alex
> > > >
> > > > --- Brian Longwe wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thank you very much Bw. Ndemo for this clear,
> > > >> concise and very
> > > >> practical reminder of our legislative process
> > (it's
> > > >> amazing how
> > > >> quickly we forget the stuff we learnt in
> > pri/sec
> > > >> school)!
> > > >>
> > > >> Rgds,
> > > >>
> > > >> Brian
> > > >>
> > > >> On Aug 14, 2007, at 1:41 PM,
> > bitange at jambo.co.ke
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Rebecca,
> > > >> > I did not want to comment on the Demo but I
> > think
> > > >> the public is being
> > > >> > misled here. What is the reasoning behind the
> > > >> Demo when the
> > > >> > Government
> > > >> > has made it clear that the issue shall be
> > looked
> > > >> at? We delivered
> > > >> > on all
> > > >> > promises we made to the stakeholders and
> > those who
> > > >> bothered to read
> > > >> > and
> > > >> > seek dialog. I think by resorting into mob
> > > >> psychology you risk
> > > >> > eroding
> > > >> > the confidence and and trust that we have
> > built
> > > >> over the past view
> > > >> > years.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Since we have another bill coming, I have
> > decided
> > > >> to present the
> > > >> > lessons
> > > >> > learnt (attached) from the Media Bill to
> > avoid
> > > >> such situation in
> > > >> > the ICT
> > > >> > Bill. It is important that we all understand
> > the
> > > >> legislative
> > > >> > process in
> > > >> > Kenya and it is only by making decisions
> > based on
> > > >> knowledge that we
> > > >> > can
> > > >> > develop a civilized nation.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Regards
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Bitange Ndemo.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> in case yhou support journalists...
> > > >> >> Hi all.
> > > >> >> This is to inform you that we have already
> > > >> notified the police
> > > >> >> that we
> > > >> >> shall be holding a peaceful procession as
> > > >> indicated in Mbau's
> > > >> >> email. We
> > > >> >> have also dispatched a letter to the AG
> > asking
> > > >> him or his
> >
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