[kictanet] The Kenya Communications Amendment Bill

[Alex Gakuru]

Barrack,

My apologies if I appeared to harass the Permanent
Secretary. The gist of my, I believe justified,
request for information was to know the fate of our
Safari Park contributions considering that the
expected legislators could not come because of said
Parlimentary Procedures.  

I needed to know whether we should assume that those
contributions we made needed to be repeated should an
opportunity to meet with the Committee present itself
especially if the ministry could not incorporate them.

I interpret Dr. Ndemo's advice as "they have them,
because we gave them but now lobby hard yourselves to
ensure your interests are captured" 
   
I am sufficiently pleased with his reply, his
voluntary additional information, and await
confirmation on how the committee sees best fit to
receive any outstanding   stakeholders' concerns on
the bill as promised today.

Please understand that I consider myself of the issue
focussed, not the person, nature and I would seriously
err to substitute any clause, error, commission, or
omission with "Bitange Ndemo":)    

Have a laughly day!

Alex

--- Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good effort bwana Ndemo, Alex i bet you understand
> how our legislators
> operate take it easy on bwana Ndemo, bwana Ps try
> your level best to ensure
> that Stakeholder expectations are met, so far i
> guess you deserve a pat
> Regards
> 
> On 8/16/07, Benjamin Makai <benmakai at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dr.Ndemo
> > This information is very necessary and important.
> Kindly could you also
> > outline to the level or rather phases pertaining
> the same sir.
> >
> > This gives us the the auditable elements of the
> process for the few whom
> > may not be aware of the process and yet they may
> want to shout loundest..
> >
> >
> >
> > All is about the welfare of our countr y(personal
> sentiments and not about
> > who shouts loundest and in some situations or
> least solutions. ICT is all
> > bout solutions and world wide tested and proven
> best practices)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > *bitange at jambo.co.ke* wrote:
> >
> > Dear Alex,
> > I tried to explain how parliament works earlier in
> the week. We cannot
> > revise the bill here. We have taken the proposals
> to the committee for
> > consideration.
> >
> > Luckily today the committee sumoned me to
> parliament. They want to have a
> > stakeholder's meeting either on Tuesady or
> Thursday next week in Mombasa.
> > I shall confirm this to you tomorrow. Any changes
> now must go through the
> > committee since the bill belongs to parliament.
> You have this window to
> > make the necessary changes. The safari Park
> proposals are already with
> > them but they may decide that they do not want to
> include them. This is
> > where we need the stakeholders to push.
> >
> > I hope you do not leave this window of opportunity
> to pass and blame us
> > later.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Ndemo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dr. Ndemo,
> > >
> > > You invited us to Safari Park Hotel and on
> information
> > > and belief, we were coming to meet the
> Parliament
> > > Committee. We understood your at the venue
> explanation
> > > why they could not come.
> > >
> > > However,
> > >
> > > Would you be in a position to inform
> stakeholders what
> > > to expect of our Safari Park contributions on
> the
> > > Kenya Communications Amendment Bill 2007? i.e.
> does
> > > the ministry have an "updated"
> version-considerate of
> > > expressed concerns? I am made to understand that
> a
> > > Bill's mover (who in this case is the Minister)
> is
> > > allowed to amend it anytime.
> > >
> > > This also would not only help us know where our
> > > concerns lay but it would also help us take
> informed
> > > engagements with the Energy and Communications
> > > Committee.
> > >
> > > I request for this information in view of your
> emailed
> > > informative note advising stakeholders on the
> law
> > > making processes, advising on the steps, when
> and
> > > where to engaging parliamentary committees in
> the
> > > process.
> > >
> > > Hope to hear from you.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > --- Brian Longwe wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thank you very much Bw. Ndemo for this clear,
> > >> concise and very
> > >> practical reminder of our legislative process
> (it's
> > >> amazing how
> > >> quickly we forget the stuff we learnt in
> pri/sec
> > >> school)!
> > >>
> > >> Rgds,
> > >>
> > >> Brian
> > >>
> > >> On Aug 14, 2007, at 1:41 PM,
> bitange at jambo.co.ke
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Rebecca,
> > >> > I did not want to comment on the Demo but I
> think
> > >> the public is being
> > >> > misled here. What is the reasoning behind the
> > >> Demo when the
> > >> > Government
> > >> > has made it clear that the issue shall be
> looked
> > >> at? We delivered
> > >> > on all
> > >> > promises we made to the stakeholders and
> those who
> > >> bothered to read
> > >> > and
> > >> > seek dialog. I think by resorting into mob
> > >> psychology you risk
> > >> > eroding
> > >> > the confidence and and trust that we have
> built
> > >> over the past view
> > >> > years.
> > >> >
> > >> > Since we have another bill coming, I have
> decided
> > >> to present the
> > >> > lessons
> > >> > learnt (attached) from the Media Bill to
> avoid
> > >> such situation in
> > >> > the ICT
> > >> > Bill. It is important that we all understand
> the
> > >> legislative
> > >> > process in
> > >> > Kenya and it is only by making decisions
> based on
> > >> knowledge that we
> > >> > can
> > >> > develop a civilized nation.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards
> > >> >
> > >> > Bitange Ndemo.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> in case yhou support journalists...
> > >> >> Hi all.
> > >> >> This is to inform you that we have already
> > >> notified the police
> > >> >> that we
> > >> >> shall be holding a peaceful procession as
> > >> indicated in Mbau's
> > >> >> email. We
> > >> >> have also dispatched a letter to the AG
> asking
> > >> him or his
> 
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