[Kictanet] where is meeting for EASSY

Mon May 8 11:11:48 EAT 2006

Hello Warigia,

Did you find out where the EASSY meeting is being held today and at what
time? We're interested in attending it. 

Best, 

Maureen M.A

Original Message:
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From: warigia bowman warigiabowman at hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 03:02:09 -0500
To: mwangati at measureafrica.org
Subject: [Kictanet] where is meeting for EASSY 

Hello Brian

please give us more info on the meeting on EASSY? Where is it and what do
we 
need to do to attend?

Yours, Rigia

>Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:12 AM
>Subject: Re: [Fibre-for-africa] Kenya to Build Kshs 15 Billion Fibre Optic
>
>
>>I would urgently suggest that anybody who is interested in this  subject 
>>and is in Nairobi on the 8th should attend the workshop that  the
Ministry 
>>has called. The PS is now in Djibouti and I expect that  he will come
back 
>>with some interesting suggestions. The workshop is  intended to address 
>>all the issues required to establish multi- million Multimedia technology 
>>park and I believe that internet  infrastructure is a key element. For 
>>those of you who saw the notice  in the newspapers it was clear that 
>>investors, contractors,  architects, development partners etc are being 
>>called to attend this  event and chart the way forward. Unfortunately I 
>>will be out of the  country at the time - otherwise I would have really 
>>wanted to participate.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Brian
>>
>>
>>On May 5, 2006, at 10:11 AM, <alice at apc.org> <alice at apc.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Well said Bill.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Kagai" <billkagai at gmail.com>
>>>To: <eric at afrispa.org>; "Private list for use by EASSY Workshop 
>>>Participants" <fibre-for-africa at lists.apc.org>
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:49 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Fibre-for-africa] Kenya to Build Kshs 15 Billion  Fibre 
>>>Optic
>>>
>>>
>>>I dont have authority to speak on this but as an interested party I  can 
>>>say:::
>>>
>>>1. The dynamics of capitalism are at play and the demand for the cable
>>>ultimately has to be met. For the local investors, we find the
>>>Djibouti route cheaper and accessible. But I am also aware that other
>>>interested parties are actually interested in laying the cable from
>>>Mombasa to India...and talks are in progress.
>>>
>>>2. Raising money from the Stock Exchange will not be easy as some have
>>>purported. Though we have had successes in the market, blue chip is
>>>not yet fully embraced since the collapse of Africa Lakes??? Africa
>>>Online. I know and have experienced that before Capital Markets
>>>Authority allows you to transact in the market it takes minimum 3
>>>years of vetting. So raising money from the NSE is (IMHO) impossible
>>>on the said time frame.
>>>
>>>3. Regardless of all the other unresolved problems, the ultimate
>>>scenario for some of us if for Govt to take the lead though a SPV
>>>worth USD 200 Million. We can then invest in the said vehicle which
>>>will have Govt as a share holder with a certain stake. This will
>>>probably be the best solution for interested entities and the money we
>>>invest proratas to the shares we get. I think Ubuntunet Alliance is
>>>also looking for a similar route. Then the SPV can assume legal
>>>status, acquire all the necessary licenses from CCK, later go public
>>>and we are on the move.
>>>
>>>Probably, if we were to form a consortia of this nature then we can
>>>negotiate with Govt, get things done and we all smile to the bank.
>>>
>>>The other thing I know for sure is that the Kenya Govt is very
>>>committed to PlanB of EASSy but they will require PPP to make it
>>>happen. I prefer this direction rather than wait for E-Africa
>>>Commission to be releasing info in bits and pieces to an extent where
>>>the investors we represent cannot tangibly make a decision on EASSy.
>>>--
>>>With Kind Regards,
>>>Bildad Kagai
>>>MD - Circuits & Packets Communications Ltd
>>>Content & Training Partner - JKUAT E-Government Academy
>>>Suite B2, Tetu Apartments, State House Avenue
>>>P. O. Box 20311 - 00200
>>>Nairobi, Kenya
>>>Tel. 254 20 2728332
>>>Fax. 254 20 2726965
>>>Cell. 254 722 379409
>>>URL. www.circuitspackets.co.ke
>>>URL. egov.jkuat.ac.ke
>>>
>>>
>>>On 5/4/06, Eric Osiakwan <eric at afrispa.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Question, is there a specfic reason why the cable is being build  from 
>>>>Mombasa to Djibouti, Bill?
>>>>
>>>>On another note, am not sure of the argument that the EA and SA 
>>>>governments and people have waited too long for EASSy to happen so 
they 
>>>>are tired and considering alternate approaches.
>>>>
>>>>Since we have all become Open Acces believers on the basis that  the 
>>>>"closed access" aka "club deal" has not the expected evidence  in SAT3, 
>>>>the consenssus is to try an alternate approach. Hence the  original
plan 
>>>>for EASSy needs to change to an Open Access  structure so lets be 
>>>>patient and work through the mechanism except  if we have given up 
>>>>already and want to do EASSy the SAT3 way, God  forbid....
>>>>
>>>>Eric here
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>>From: brian at pure-id.com
>>>>Reply-To: Private list for use by EASSY Workshop Participants 
>>>><fibre-for-africa at lists.apc.org>
>>>>Date: Wed,  3 May 2006 12:17:50 -0500
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >Actually I wouldn't be that hasty in thinking that this is an
>>>>entirely >bad
>>>> >thing. It seems that the government has gotten tired of waiting
>>>>for the
>>>> >operators to get their act together and mobilise EASSY (they have
>>>>now >pushed
>>>> >the completion date to 2008).
>>>> >
>>>> >So what the KE govt has decided to do is try and commission a cable
>>>> >running from
>>>> >Djibouti to Mombasa. To try and fast track the country's
>>>>"connectedness". >A
>>>> >potential spinoff is that this could potentially save EASSY the
>>>> >construction of
>>>> >that portion.
>>>> >
>>>> >It seems that we are not the only ones who are feeling frustrated
>>>>at how
>>>> >difficult EASSY seems to be getting....
>>>> >
>>>> >Regards,
>>>> >
>>>> >Brian
>>>> >
>>>> >Quoting Badru Ntege <ntegeb at one2net.co.ug>:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The  announcement  by the  Kenyan Government to  go it alone
>>>> >>> on the proposed  optic fibre  already presents a  sharky
>>>> >>> start and uncertain maturation of the ESSY project which has
>>>> >>> significant  impact  on bth the  the profile  and expecations
>>>> >>>  within the  consortium.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It's a pitty though not too surprised.  This is indicative of
>>>>the >> typical
>>>> >> African short sightedness where a few government technocrats
>>>>hide their
>>>> >> limited knowledge on simple issues behind the vail of national >> 
>>>>security.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So when some of us who have been knocking our heads against
>>>>stalwarts >> like
>>>> >> these don't seem to excited by Eassy you can understand.  As
>>>>long as
>>>> >> governments are anywhere near the deal, it has a 40% chance of
>>>>success.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sorry to our kenyan brothers and sisters, there goes your tax
>>>>money in >> a
>>>> >> black hole.  I predict that if they proceed, the project will
>>>>be >> reviewed
>>>> >> under a special comission of inquiry a few years later which
>>>>will >> conclude
>>>> >> that the funds were mismanaged, find one or two scapegoats who
>>>>will >> still
>>>> >> gate away with it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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