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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Listers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I just tried in the morning to register through *254# which accepted and indicated that they will respond after 2 hours. Now in the evening, there is no response.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Data infringement is on the loose; were my data rights accessed? The cost for the process is Kshs 10; if 1 million tried the process and are waiting. Who benefits from the revenue generated by the SMS? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=600 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:59.35pt'><td width=178 valign=top style='width:133.5pt;border:none;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:5.0pt 5.0pt 5.0pt 5.0pt;height:59.35pt'><p class=MsoNormal><img width=164 height=51 style='width:1.7083in;height:.5312in' id=image2.jpg src="cid:image001.jpg@01D905AA.63785530"><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=422 valign=top style='width:316.5pt;border:none;padding:5.0pt 5.0pt 5.0pt 5.0pt;height:59.35pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Rapudo Hawi | </span></b><b><span style='color:#274E13'>Team Lead </span></b><b><span style='color:black'>|</span></b><b><span style='color:#274E13'> Director</span></b><span style='color:#274E13'> </span><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#274E13'>+254(0) 720975498 | <a href="http://www.kijijiyeetu.co.ke"><span style='color:#0563C1'>www.kijijiyeetu.co.ke</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#FF9900'>Catholic Nurses Association- Diani Rd, Nairobi</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> KICTANet <kictanet-bounces+rapudohawi=kijijiyeetu.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 1, 2022 5:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> rapudohawi@kijijiyeetu.co.ke<br><b>Cc:</b> Victor Kapiyo <vkapiyo@gmail.com>; Alex Watila <awatila@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Hustler Fund and the data protection implications<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I tried to get the terms and conditions from the link given on mobile and something else showed up. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, 1 Dec 2022, 16:44 Walubengo J via KICTANet, <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>@ Alex,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I am still stuck on this statement:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>>>>i am still not convinced a citizen can demand privacy from the government since the basics of government >>>is that citizens ceded private rights in return for the public good (Hobbes theory of government)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I don't know who 'Hobbes' is or was but please avoid him or her ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Your right to privacy is baked into your 2010 Constitution and even the government should not take it away. Emphasis is of course on 'should not' - the fact that most governments regularly do and violate citizen privacy should never, ever be normalized.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>walu<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_6528262354811406890ydp2c3b1a0eyahoo_quoted_0758493510"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 11:31:57 AM GMT+3, Alex Watila via KICTANet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="m_6528262354811406890ydp2c3b1a0eyiv6524927209"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>in terms of data privacy the government has legitimate right to access your information since you require them to provide you with services <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>i am still not convinced a citizen can demand privacy from the government since the basics of government is that citizens ceded private rights in return for public good (Hobbes theory of government)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>in terms of mpesa pin i doubt it leaves mpesa. GoK is just using an existing platform (shared services concept we have been pushing) to deliver a public good<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Thu, Dec 1, 2022, 10:20 tevin mwenda via KICTANet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Dear listers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>The Kenyan Government launched the much hyped hustler fund a digital lending platform. Credit will be accessible through various lending platforms such as M-PESA. Out of curiosity I can not help but wonder what are the data protection implications of the system. For example what data will be used as baseline to determine your credit worthiness. Is it data held by government, credit reference bureaus, the lending companies or we are starting from scratch ? Who will be the main data controller of the data collected is it government is it the companies. If it’s the government how much data will they have on Kenya and their credit worthiness and what are the implications of that. Who will store this data? Are their any data sharing agreements in place between the entities involved. What data subject rights have been provided and does the consumer understand them? It will be intresting to see how this develops and the discussion from a data protection perspective.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://nation.africa/kenya/news/game-changer-president-unveils-hustler-fund-today-4037806" target="_blank">https://nation.africa/kenya/news/game-changer-president-unveils-hustler-fund-today-4037806</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Tevin Mwenda Gitonga<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>KICTANet mailing list<br><a href="mailto:KICTANet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">KICTANet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br><a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet</a><br><br>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/KICTANet/" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/KICTANet/</a><br>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/KICTANet/</a><br>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/KICTANet/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/KICTANet/</a><br>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/kictanet/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/kictanet/</a><br>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbcLVjnPtTGBEeYLGUb2Yow/" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbcLVjnPtTGBEeYLGUb2Yow/</a><br><br>Unsubscribe or change your options at <a href="https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40gmail.com" target="_blank">https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/awatila%40gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="m_6528262354811406890ydp2c3b1a0eyiv6524927209yqtfd44446"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><br><br><br>KICTANet is a multi-stakeholder Think Tank for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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