<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Walu</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">You have clearly chosen to ignore my mention of IATA etc...Let me refresh your memory by repeating the gist of the message below.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">The airline industry rules and regulations are governed by IATA (International Air Travel Association) and the airlines follow these rules strictly on pain of death. Literally. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">What governs the Telcos' rules and regulations about the expiry of bundles? Is it in the ITU regulations perhaps? Or the Communications Authority perhaps? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">These arbitrary ways of dealing with people's hard-earned money need to stop and policymakers and regulators need to step in. Once we know what the rules of the game are then we can make wise wallet decisions. Meanwhile, we continue to suffer bila chuki.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
Hussein</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="georgia, serif" size="2"><span>Fintech | </span>Digital Transformation</font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><br></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>T<font size="2">el: +254 713 60<font size="2">1113</font></font><br></span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">Ali's Profile</a></span><a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></span></font></p><p style="font-size:small;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:georgia;color:black"><br></span></p><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span><br><font size="1">Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.</font></span></span></font><span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif;font-size:11pt"></span><span style="font-size:11pt"></span>
<span style="font-family:"Baskerville Old Face",serif"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 7:11 PM Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">@Ali </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">what of the 'air-ticket' analogy?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Would the airlines be acting harshly if they expired your ticket? As in you must use it within a certain timeframe otherwise it becomes null and void...aka 'hot-air' ;-)</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">walu</div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 02:53:48 PM GMT+3, Ali Hussein via KICTANet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:
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<div><div id="m_853991587714271511ydp4e2d6b1fyiv6852438276"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Boss. Wrong analogy. I pay my rent for the month. I don't expect my landlord to tell me my rent has expired before the end of the month! </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">As for operating costs, please plan ahead and cost it accordingly. Your lack of planning or understanding of your operating costs should not be the reason you become unfair to me.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">I don't understand why the Telco industry thinks that if they use jargon we'll all be awed and be ok with it. This is 2022! We are not awed. We are asking the right questions. And it seems the Legislators are too. Time to review this archaic rule.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
Hussein</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="georgia, serif" size="2"><span>Fintech | </span>Digital Transformation</font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><br clear="none"></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>T<font size="2" style="background-color:inherit">el: +254 713 60<font size="2">1113</font></font><br clear="none"></span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>LinkedIn: <a shape="rect" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Ali's Profile</a></span><a shape="rect" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></span></font></p><p style="font-size:small;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:georgia;color:black"><br clear="none"></span></p><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span><br clear="none"><font size="1" style="background-color:inherit">Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.</font></span></span></font><span style="font-family:"Old serif";font-size:11pt"></span><span style="font-size:11pt"></span>
<span style="font-family:"Old serif""></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div id="m_853991587714271511ydp4e2d6b1fyiv6852438276yqt12343"><div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 2:26 PM Barrack Otieno <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Chairman <span><a shape="rect" href="mailto:ahussein@kictanet.or.ke" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);text-decoration:underline" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">@Ali Hussein</a></span><span> even house rent is not perpetual to guarantee engagement between the landlord and tenant, expiry ensures that engagement between the service providers and the customer is maintained. Operating costs are also elastic.</span><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>Regards</span></div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 30 Nov 2022, 2:11 pm Ali Hussein, <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><a shape="rect" id="m_853991587714271511ydp4e2d6b1fyiv6852438276m_-1040318677902395292m_-5176035342682221356gmail-plusReplyChip-2" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">@Barrack Otieno</a> I vehemently disagree.<br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="georgia, serif" style="background-color:inherit">This is absolutely insane. No argument can deter me from my conviction that this is wrong. Once bought there should be no expiry date.</font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="georgia, serif" style="background-color:inherit"><br clear="none"></font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="georgia, serif" style="background-color:inherit"><a shape="rect" id="m_853991587714271511ydp4e2d6b1fyiv6852438276m_-1040318677902395292m_-5176035342682221356gmail-plusReplyChip-3" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">@Barrack Otieno</a>, @Walubengo, and all you proponents of this expiry manenos. Let me ask you this - What exactly is the issue here? Why do telcos want to expire our bundles when we have paid for them? What are the technical limitations here? Or financial? Please explain it to me like I'm a six-year-old.</font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="georgia, serif" style="background-color:inherit"><br clear="none"></font></span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="georgia, serif" style="background-color:inherit">Regards</font></span></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><b style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font face="georgia, serif" size="2"><br clear="none"></font></b></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><b style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
Hussein</font></b><br clear="none"></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="georgia, serif" size="2"><span>Fintech | </span>Digital Transformation</font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><br clear="none"></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>T<font size="2" style="background-color:inherit">el: +254 713 60<font size="2">1113</font></font><br clear="none"></span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>LinkedIn: <a shape="rect" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Ali's Profile</a></span><a shape="rect" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></span></font></p><p style="font-size:small;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:georgia;color:black"><br clear="none"></span></p><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span><br clear="none"><font size="1" style="background-color:inherit">Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.</font></span></span></font><span style="font-family:"Old serif";font-size:11pt"></span><span style="font-size:11pt"></span>
<span style="font-family:"Old serif""></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div></div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:34 PM Barrack Otieno via KICTANet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I agree with <a shape="rect" id="m_853991587714271511ydp4e2d6b1fyiv6852438276m_-1040318677902395292m_-5176035342682221356m_-3597402772548395256plusReplyChip-0" href="mailto:jwalubengo@kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">@John Walubengo</a>. Sustainability is a key issue for any infrastructure or application service provider. I guess it is a component of digital literacy that end users should be made aware of continually.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best Regards<br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 8:48 AM David Indeje via KICTANet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(15,20,25);font-family:TwitterChirp,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:20px;white-space:pre-wrap">Should Internet Data Bundles Expire? This week’s article by </span><span style="font-family:TwitterChirp,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:20px;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(29,155,240)">Mr John Walubengo</span><span style="color:rgb(15,20,25);font-family:TwitterChirp,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:20px;white-space:pre-wrap"> reviews the issues from the customers’, mobile operators, and regulatory (and legal) points of view. </span><span style="font-family:TwitterChirp,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:20px;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(29,155,240)"><a shape="rect" href="https://bit.ly/3ONagcU" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/3ONagcU</a></span><span style="color:rgb(15,20,25);font-family:TwitterChirp,-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,Roboto,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:20px;white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 11:22 AM Ali Hussein via KICTANet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Victor</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Thanks for sharing this. This is what happens when we lack a clear policy on Net Neutrality and the usage in general. What the lawmakers are doing is what we in Kiswahili call 'kutapatapa' or in English to be all over the place. </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Let this be something that we as an industry take up with the lawmakers and work with them to come up with solid policies to address this issue. </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font size="2" face="georgia, serif">Ali
Hussein</font></b></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2" face="georgia, serif"><span>Fintech | </span>Digital Transformation</font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><br clear="none"></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>T<font size="2" style="background-color:inherit">el: +254 713 60<font size="2">1113</font></font><br clear="none"></span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span>LinkedIn: <a shape="rect" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Ali's Profile</a></span><a shape="rect" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></font></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></span></font></p><p style="font-size:small;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:georgia;color:black"><br clear="none"></span></p><font size="2"><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><span><br clear="none"><font size="1" style="background-color:inherit">Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.</font></span></span></font><span style="font-family:"Old serif";font-size:11pt"></span><span style="font-size:11pt"></span>
<span style="font-family:"Old serif""></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div></div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 4:40 PM Victor Kapiyo via KICTANet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Parliament will probe telecommunications firms for imposing expiry dates on data bundles, airtime and loyalty programmes such as Safaricom’s Bonga Points, setting the stage for a fresh battle between the lawmakers and the operators.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">The National Assembly’s committee on Communications, Information and Innovation says it will also inquire into the widespread Internet speed throttling practice by internet service providers (ISPs).</span></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font color="#20124d"><br clear="none"></font></b></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font color="#20124d">Read more: </font></b><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/mps-open-probe-on-data-expiry-safaricom-bonga-points--4032338" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/mps-open-probe-on-data-expiry-safaricom-bonga-points--4032338</a></span></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font color="#20124d"><br clear="none"></font></b></div><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(32,18,77)"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font color="#20124d">Victor Kapiyo</font></b><br clear="none"></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="1" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#351c75">Partner | <i>Lawmark Partners LLP</i></font></div><div><font size="1" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#000000"><i>Suite No. 8, Centro House, Westlands, Nairobi | </i></font><i style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:x-small">Web: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.lawmark.co.ke" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">www.lawmark.co.ke</a> </i></div><font size="1" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#000000">====================================================<br clear="none"><i>“Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude” Zig Ziglar<br clear="none"></i></font><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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