<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="plusReplyChip-7" href="mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com" tabindex="-1">@Adam Lane</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks. We have tonnes of domesticated ISO 27,000 series Standards at the Kenya Bureau of Standards. Together with <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="plusReplyChip-8" href="mailto:jwalubengo@kictanet.or.ke" tabindex="-1">@John Walubengo</a> and other listers we have been involved in local standards development. The Challenge we have always faced is that Standards focusing on ICT are voluntary. Only those touching on Health and Safety are mandatory. With creation of the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner, things might change.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards<br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 2:45 PM Adam Lane via KICTANet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">I would say the main issue I have is that most services/websites/apps don’t give any options. You accept the Terms and Conditions or you don’t. It is good that nowadays, at least
in Android that I know well, permissions can be easily denied or limited for apps in relation to accessing certain functions from the device. However this is not the same as using data itself. Hopefully in the future there will be more flexibility and options
around what one accepts. With cookies, some websites give options (either a list of several things you can toggle on or off, or options of reject, minimum required, all) though other websites don’t give options at all.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">I am not aware of any voluntary standards in Kenya that a website/app/service could self-certify against or be independently verified against that shows they meet such standards
around use of data protection/privacy. An Act really only defines illegal and legal, but it is good to have different options within legal that can show strong, stronger, very strong protections, for example, that are something that is voluntary but could
be recognized by users.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="EN-US">Adam<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> KICTANet [mailto:<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Badam.lane" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+adam.lane</a>=<a href="mailto:huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Watila via KICTANet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 23, 2022 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adam Lane <<a href="mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com" target="_blank">adam.lane@huawei.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:awatila@gmail.com" target="_blank">awatila@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussion- Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Listers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On question 1 I think people are over fearful regarding the issue of data protection. I would suggest that they need to take the same approach as organizations are doing by conducting
a personal data privacy impact assessment. E.g. what is the real risk of your personal identifiable Information leaking?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">One example I considered in say your telephone number. You hide it online but hand out your business cards that have your contact details.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Consultant<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">ICT4D<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"><a href="https://advisera.com/27001academy/#a_aid=621f58ced9bb1&a_bid=f79f3b0b" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">Quality Management Systems</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"><a href="https://advisera.com/27001academy/#a_aid=621f58ced9bb1&a_bid=f79f3b0b" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">Information Security Management Systems</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> KICTANet <<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet-bounces+awatila=gmail.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Judy Okite via KICTANet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 22, 2022 5:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Watila <<a href="mailto:awatila@gmail.com" target="_blank">awatila@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Judy Okite <<a href="mailto:judyokite@gmail.com" target="_blank">judyokite@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [kictanet] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussion- Day 1 - Governing Data and Protecting Privacy<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Topic: Governing Data and Protecting Privacy </span></b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">The<a href="https://www.odpc.go.ke/dpa-act/" target="_blank"> Kenya Data Protection Act
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> <span style="color:black">An Act of Parliament to give effect to Article 31(c) and (d) of the Constitution of Kenya , 2010 (Right to privacy); </span></span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">- To establish the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner;</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">1. As a lister how safe do you feel about the safety of your personal data online?What do you think could be done better to improve the protection of data online?</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">2. How safe are children and persons with disabilities
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Receive warm greetings from the Multi Advisory Group (MAG) that has been working to prepare this year's Kenya Internet Governance Forum (KIGF). Ahead of
<span style="color:black">the KIGF week, there shall be a series of online discussions to set the pace for the discussions that shall be held during the KIGF. </span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">The online discussion will run from the 22nd to the 24th of June and the following are the discussion topics.</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Day 1. <b>Governing data and protecting privacy.</b></span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">The discussion topics shall be posted by a moderator and we invite all of you to participate. Also do remember to register for your participation</span><span lang="EN-US"> in this year's main IGF events
using this link: <a href="https://bit.ly/39pXf9a" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/39pXf9a</a> .Our official hashtag is <b>#KeIGF2022</b><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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