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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As another question,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">And I’ve asked this in other forums as well – but considering the number of legal folk on this list – I figured I’d ask for further opinion here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Does the ICT practitioner bill not run directly afoul of article 33.1 of the constitution – which states:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#848484">(1) Every person has the right to freedom of expression, which includes--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#848484">(a) freedom to seek, receive or impart information or ideas;<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Now – surely that is the very essence of ICT – particularly in the roles of designers, consultants and anyone working with information. The I in ICT alone stands for information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Comments? I am no lawyer – so I may be well off track – but I’d like to hear opinions on this
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Adam Lane <adam.lane@huawei.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 19 February 2021 14:28<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [kictanet] ICT Practitioners Bill, call for comments/submissions to the National Assembly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Indeed. I fully agree this definition captures the entire population that uses a smartphone! Let alone that majority of jobs whether a 1 person business on the street or boda driver or a farmer in agriculture, or anyone working in any industry
whatsoever is increasingly using digital no matter if they think they are an ICT practitioner or not. Do we need a certificate to write with pen and paper or use a calculator? Why do we need one to type or use excel or sell online?
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let's be clear there is already a very effective market based mechanism in certifications that are OPTIONAL and offered by acadamia as well as private actors anywhere around the world, including delivered online globally.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Let's also be clear that the market recognises and rewards experience based on references etc without needing any certification or likewise.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="word-break:break-all"><b>From:</b>Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="word-break:break-all"><b>To:</b>KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="word-break:break-all"><b>Cc:</b>Adam Lane <<a href="mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com">adam.lane@huawei.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="word-break:break-all"><b>Date:</b>2021-02-19 14:20:34
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="word-break:break-all"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [kictanet] ICT Practitioners Bill, call for comments/submissions to the National Assembly
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is correct - he has stated as much in public Facebook posts.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I encourage people to read that bill and in addition to at least one submission I know is going in complete with 13 and a half thousand signatures on it - every single submission against this absolute innovation killing industry harming
insanity would be useful. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In summary the way I see this <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A.) it would result in some of the most experienced people in the industry being forced out of the country to be able to work<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">B.) there is no proper definition of an ict professional that does not cover everything from the secretary that uses excel to input numbers to the most advanced programmer - the definition in there covers virtually anyone in a modern job<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">C.) the bill has no provision in it for bringing in external trainers and consultants and hence damages the industry by working against international knowledge sharing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">D.) the bill is death to cooperative international innovation<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">E.) the bill creates serious and deep problems with inter company staff transfers or people in multi-nationals coming in to work on intra-company projects that require external resource<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">F.) the bill could potentially put a lot of people out of work damaging the overall tax base<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">G.) there has been zero cited evidence of the need for this bill or the positive impact it would have in the industry - no studies cited - no fact based assertions - nothing but speculation that is in my view a naked attempt at a money
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<p class="MsoNormal">H.) the law is entirely impractical as regards enforcement - since in the days of remote work a person affected by this can just leave the country and work remotely and be exempt - while again having negative affect on the taxation base.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Plenty more points which I will get to but that’s a quick summary of the headline points against this absurdity<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>>
on behalf of Adam Lane via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 19, 2021 12:17:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Adam Lane <<a href="mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com">adam.lane@huawei.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] ICT Practitioners Bill, call for comments/submissions to the National Assembly</span>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">I believe that CS Mucheru has said he does not support this, and I recall he has said that this is purely driven by the
sponsors of the bill in parliament.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> kictanet
[<a href="mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke">mailto:kictanet-bounces+adam.lane=huawei.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Frankline Sunday via kictanet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 19, 2021 10:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adam Lane <<a href="mailto:adam.lane@huawei.com">adam.lane@huawei.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Frankline Sunday <<a href="mailto:franklinesunday@gmail.com">franklinesunday@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [kictanet] ICT Practitioners Bill, call for comments/submissions to the National Assembly</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">yeah mucheru is very eager to push it through. let me follow up. thanks </span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 10:01 AM Wamathai (HapaKenya) via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">This thing has refused to die.</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">On Fri, 19 Feb 2021, 09:52 David Indeje via kictanet, <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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